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    #31
    Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
    Because there's more important things than money, as some of the audience last night said.

    Child poverty
    Illegal wars / WMD

    We could trade in bananas and probably still improve the prospects for many.

    I know for many down south their world revolves around money, but in Scotland, that's simply not as important.

    When you have got the train back from fantasy ****wittery land let me know and we can talk about it again.

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      #32
      Originally posted by minestrone View Post
      I notice today that Darling saying that Scotland could keep the pound outside of a currency union has been turned into some kind of victory for the nationalists and therefore this is a now a non issue.

      It is staggering that people don't understand even the basic arguments on this issue and that it can now be brushed aside.
      That was because Darling and the other Unionists have kept repeating the mantra that Scotland won't be allowed to use the pound. He got flustered during the debate and forgot to keep to the script.

      It was noticable at the summing up that Darling was reading from a prepared script that included the 'no plan B' part because he had expected the same answer from Salmond as in the previous debate. In fact, Salmond had stated that there were 3 plan Bs but if you argue for 2nd best then 2nd best is what you get. As contractors we should recognise that as we negotiate our rates and if we start low it's impossible to go higher.

      Salmond, on the other hand, was passionate in his summing up and didn't need to refer to prepared notes to make his points.

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        #33
        Originally posted by minestrone View Post
        When you have got the train back from fantasy ****wittery land let me know and we can talk about it again.
        Money, it's just pieces of paper. It's not real. Skills are real. Stuff is real. Stuff you can trade. That is nature.

        Printing money, like the BoE does, is not generating wealth. But many love it. And they accuse me of being in fantasy land.
        "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unix View Post
          More likely Yes voters had more to cheer about and No voters were cringing at how pathetic Darling's performance was.
          Whilst I agree that his performance was sub-par I don't think the bullying helped and that's to make excuses for Darling as I'm no fan of his, but the whole thing was akin to a playground shouting match.
          In Scooter we trust

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            #35
            Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
            From the bit I saw Darling had said keeping the pound without currency union was a terrible option and completely unworkable, and Salmond seized on that as Darling admitting that Scotland could keep the Pound. That's even dumber logic than the "why isn't it better now?" comment.
            It is beyond bonkers.

            People have been whipped into such a frenzy now they are ready to believe absolutely anything. Madness has taken over a great deal of the population.

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              #36
              Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
              And so they should have. That's capitalism.

              Democracy in the UK needs a drastic shake up. The electorate votes for one thing and gets another. Our basic rights are being stripped away in front of us with out of control immigration. I don't recognise the Britain I once knew. Where was the vote on privatising the post office? As an example of which they are many.

              Why is it taking Scotland to shine the light on things that matter?
              With you on all those points - but amazed that you believe any Nats will deliver anything better
              You will still get career politicians delivering nanny knows best policies no matter what the electorate actually want & and with a 50%(ish) turnout in Scotland for the last election - people really only have themselves to blame.
              The only way to get real change is to hold them personally accountable for their actions in office - but then you are back into heads on spikes outside Tower of London territory

              It sounds like you are hoping that a smaller government - i.e. one by the Scots for the Scots will deliver some kind of Utopia - my expectation is all you will have is regional bit players elevated to the world stage as national statesmen and all the associated egos,expense nepotism, cronyism and corruption that goes along with that
              How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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                #37
                From what I have seen, the Polls have not really shifted much from the initial 60-40 advantage that the NO campaign held.
                Each marginal PR win by either side seems to cause no more than a minor fluctuation in those figures.
                Let's get the whole thing over with and get back to normal FFS!

                “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Troll View Post
                  You will still get career politicians delivering nanny knows best policies no matter t
                  Probably. But a lot less of them. That's a step in the right direction if you ask me.
                  "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
                    From what I have seen, the Polls have not really shifted much from the initial 60-40 advantage that the NO campaign held.
                    Each marginal PR win by either side seems to cause no more than a minor fluctuation in those figures.
                    Let's get the whole thing over with and get back to normal FFS!

                    Polls force people to answer, when it comes to the day there could be more people who would vote no than yes but if they don't turn up then it doesn't matter. Yes voters are much more likely to vote. I think it will be a a comfortable win for Yes.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unix View Post
                      Polls force people to answer, when it comes to the day there could be more people who would vote no than yes but if they don't turn up then it doesn't matter. Yes voters are much more likely to vote. I think it will be a a comfortable win for Yes.
                      Let's hope so, I want to see what utopia is meant to look like.
                      In Scooter we trust

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