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Young Western European Muslims in ISIS; what is it all about?

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    #71
    Originally posted by Bunk View Post
    Which says a lot
    Indeed; Mr Bin Laden apparently thought they were a bunch of nutters.

    http://rt.com/news/179844-osama-isis-iraq-letter/
    And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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      #72
      Originally posted by EternalOptimist View Post
      to prevent kids going that way ?

      luck
      a dad
      good role models
      fantastic excitement in life
      birdsa job
      a sense that things are improving
      positive mental attitude
      Can we have more than one at once?
      But I discovered nothing else but depraved, excessive superstition. Pliny the younger

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        #73
        Originally posted by Gibbon View Post
        Can we have more than one at once?
        if you are a muslim, you get none till you are 50.
        then you can have 4
        (\__/)
        (>'.'<)
        ("")("") Born to Drink. Forced to Work

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          #74
          Originally posted by EternalOptimist View Post
          if you are a muslim, you get none till you are 50.
          then you can have 4 aged 7-12
          FTFY

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            #75
            Originally posted by EternalOptimist View Post
            if you are a muslim, you get none till you are 50.
            then you can have 4
            3 years to go then...... How will how I know which ones to pick?
            But I discovered nothing else but depraved, excessive superstition. Pliny the younger

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              #76
              Originally posted by Gibbon View Post
              3 years to go then...... How will how I know which ones to pick?
              dont worry.things will be arranged
              (\__/)
              (>'.'<)
              ("")("") Born to Drink. Forced to Work

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                #77
                Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
                They're going to Syria and Iraq from all over Europe; it isn't purely a British problem. How have they ended up hating us so much? In general we're not talking about new muslim immigrants or the first generation immigrants who came to Europe to work and build up a good life. We're talking about people who grew up here and went to school here. Now I can think of lots of things in western society that I think are wrong, but that doesn't mean you need to cut people's heads off or wage war against the west. Do they feel somehow rejected by western society? Do they experience some moral void or nihilist lack of culture here that they're trying to replace by turning to an extreme version of the religion of their parents of grandparents?

                I suspect that a few of them are just psychopaths looking for an excuse to live out their fantasites, but that can't explain all the cases. It can't simply be Islam otherwise there's be 1.6 billion people around the world with bombs strapped to them and machine guns in their hands; there aren't, so it can't be explained simply by pointing to Islam. I just dunno about this; I am simply trying to understand what has gone on in their minds and in their lives to make them want to go and lose their lives fighting for some completely crazy plan.
                Simple, they believe in God and the teachings of Islam. When you walk around an town or city you will see hundreds of stunning Church building, these were built by people with a similar delusion.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by EternalOptimist View Post
                  dont worry.things will be arranged
                  Thank you imam, (ps, could I have the pipe cleaner please).
                  But I discovered nothing else but depraved, excessive superstition. Pliny the younger

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Gibbon View Post
                    Thank you imam, (ps, could I have the pipe cleaner please).
                    you'll catch ISIS-itis
                    (\__/)
                    (>'.'<)
                    ("")("") Born to Drink. Forced to Work

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Unix View Post
                      Simple, they believe in God and the teachings of Islam. When you walk around an town or city you will see hundreds of stunning Church building, these were built by people with a similar delusion.
                      yep the crusades is evidence of how we tried to spread our religious beliefs of the time. The IS lot are just a Millennia behind the times.

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