Merged threads discussing Israel

[DodgyAgent]

An interesting view of root cause. What is the root cause of "Hamas (and other Palestinian groups) desire to wipe Israel off the face of the earth"?

religion

[Paddy]

religion

God has promised me that your house and therfore your belongs to me. Please move out to the garden shed.

[original PM]

An interesting view of root cause. What is the root cause of "Hamas (and other Palestinian groups) desire to wipe Israel off the face of the earth"?

religion

Relgion is the excuse

Greed is the reason.

[NotAllThere]

For those who intend boycotting Israeli Products:

The laptop that you intend purchasing, whether Intel or AMD based, will have had their processors and/or chipsets designed in Tel-Aviv...

Most of the people in SAP I deal with nowadays are in Israel. Some of them are even anti-zionists (but not ultra-orthodox).

Wasn't Gaza originally part of Egypt anyway? and the west bank part of Trans Jordan. Yeah the refugees are not well treated in either country. Too much tribalism. I know a few Palestinians, they had to lie about their background to get a job in Jordan.

The Palestinians have a history of being very badly treated by the surrounding Arab nations. E.g. Palestinians who lived in Syria and ran off to Jordan are separated off from Syrian refugees, and live in far worse conditions. Treating Palestinians as a second class citizens was not invented by Israel. This has come about because the Palestiians haven't only been pestering Israel about having a homeland. (See Black September - Jordanian civil war, where Yassar Arafat's PLO tried to take over).

[MicrosoftBob]

The lands were historically Muslim, and a Jewish state has no place on them. It's all Islamic land, and the occupiers must come under Islamic rule.

This is pretty explicitly stated in the Hamas charter.

It's not the settlements, it's not the land that was taken during the various wars - it's the entire area.

Strictly speaking the entire planet is Islamic land...they just haven't conquered all of it yet

At some time we will either have to deal with the Islamic problem, or they will deal with us in the same way that ISIS is creating a democratic peace loving liberal enclave

[NotAllThere]

Strictly speaking the entire planet is Islamic land...they just haven't conquered all of it yet
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True dat. But Israel really sticks in their craw because once they've conquered the land, it's supposed to be theirs for all eternity. Hmmm.... sounds almost Zionist...

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

Netanyahu has a point

True dat. But Israel really sticks in their craw because once they've conquered the land, it's supposed to be theirs for all eternity. Hmmm.... sounds almost Zionist...

It is true there are interpretations which state that, however, they are mainly the Isis/al Qaeda type. It is actually Saudi who are the main believers in such and yet they remain the most chummy with Israel(not publicly of course).

[Unix]

How about this, we start again and assign continents to religions, all the people of that religion go there.

Asia - Muslims
Europe - Christians (except Catholics)
North America - Jewish
Australia - Atheist/Agnostic/Buddhists
Africa - Hindu
South America - Catholics

[MicrosoftBob]

How about this, we start again and assign continents to religions, all the people of that religion go there.

Asia - Muslims
Europe - Christians (except Catholics)
North America - Jewish
Australia - Atheist/Agnostic/Buddhists
Africa - Hindu
South America - Catholics

What about Pastafarians, Satanists, Pagans, Rastafarians etc

[NotAllThere]

How about this, we start again and assign continents to religions, all the people of that religion go there.

Asia - Muslims
Europe - Christians (except Catholics)
North America - Jewish
Australia - Atheist/Agnostic/Buddhists
Africa - Hindu
South America - Catholics

Finally, the thread starts producing sensible solutions. I think Muslims should only have half of Asia. Taoists should get everything east of the western border of china.

What about Pastafarians, Satanists, Pagans, Rastafarians etc

Antartica.