Merged threads discussing Israel

[DodgyAgent]

It is interesting that those who cannot bear to do anything other than take a tribal anti Israeli position wont face the question posed by the OP. Iinstead they are left with smearing the Israelis by equating their behaviour with that of oppressive tyrannies.

[SpontaneousOrder]

It is interesting that those who cannot bear to do anything other than take a tribal anti Israeli position wont face the question posed by the OP. Iinstead they are left with smearing the Israelis by equating their behaviour with that of oppressive tyrannies.

Because the quote attributed to benny is meaningless devoid of any context. It's like a prison warden saying "If the prisoners stop rioting there will be no more violence - if we stop fighting they'll burn the prison down". When the crux of the argument is whether those people should be in prison in the first place, then the statement is completely meaningless, and arguably the same propaganda we're exposed to all of the time by people who choose to drop the context in order to form an argument.

Is there really any evidence that that benny says is even true?

[Old Greg]

It is interesting that those who cannot bear to do anything other than take a tribal anti Israeli position wont face the question posed by the OP. Iinstead they are left with smearing the Israelis by equating their behaviour with that of oppressive tyrannies.

Which questions will you not face?

[SantaClaus]

I like Charlie Veitch's take on the subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5HCaArwZi4

Not sure why he calls himself Daniel Cohen in this video, an alta persona I guess.

[lilelvis2000]

Say, didn't Netanyahu all but rule out ever accepting a two state solution yesterday?
Netanyahu finally speaks his mind | The Times of Israel

So when he talks of arabs putting down their weapons, he means forever being occupied by Israel?

[SueEllen]

A third country need to nuke them both so they both have a joint enemy.....

[SantaClaus]

A third country need to nuke them both so they both have a joint enemy.....

Ermmm... that's why Israel often takes out other country's nuclear facilities.

[DodgyAgent]

Say, didn't Netanyahu all but rule out ever accepting a two state solution yesterday?
Netanyahu finally speaks his mind | The Times of Israel

So when he talks of arabs putting down their weapons, he means forever being occupied by Israel?

And is your point that Israeli land belongs to the Arabs? If your argument is about sovereign rights then maybe you would like to argue them. The truth of course is that the priviliged middle classes with their high earnings can make themselves seen to be caring byr condemning Israel and pretending to support the underdog. They think it makes them seem morally virtuous and as such entitled to their own high standards of living (because they care )

[SpontaneousOrder]

They think it makes them seem morally virtuous and as such entitled to their own high standards of living (because they care )

Are they not entitled to their own high standard of living then?

[DodgyAgent]

Are they not entitled to their own high standard of living then?

They simply want what you have. They have the capability and the desire and the system of government to have what you have. What they do not have is neighbours who will let them have what you have.