Merged threads discussing Israel

[KentPhilip]

Do you think that if he changes his name to Netangoogle that Hamas would stop sending rockets?

[ZARDOZ]

Land gained from Jordan, and Egypt was ceded over to the Palestinians, in return for peace. The land was then used to site rocket launchers even closer to Israeli territory.


This turns out not to be the case. That's why there are so many Syrian refugees, for example. The reason there are far fewer Palestinian refugees is that they unable to leave. Not because the Israelis are preventing them (they'd be glad if they all left), but because the surrounding nations close their borders.

E.g. Egypt closes Gaza border to aid | The Electronic Intifada

Are you saying Palestinians want to leave and Isreal wants them to leave, and the conflict is the fault of Egypt?

[SueEllen]

Are you saying Palestinians want to leave and Isreal wants them to leave, and the conflict is the fault of Egypt?

Wow weird comprehension.

[ZARDOZ]

Wow weird comprehension.

What is he trying to say then?

[SueEllen]

What is he trying to say then?

He's giving us the facts of why the Palestinians are still there.

BTW do you think that the UK government should allow the refugees near Calais in France to come into the UK?

[ZARDOZ]

He's giving us the facts of why the Palestinians are still there.

BTW do you think that the UK government should allow the refugees near Calais in France to come into the UK?

It's not the same thing at all. The conflict has been going on for all of my lifetime and I'm middle aged. Israel has been condemned in 45 resolutions by United Nations Human Rights Council since 2006. So there is nothing just about what they are up to.

[SueEllen]

It's not the same thing at all. The conflict has been going on for all of my lifetime and I'm middle aged. Israel has been condemned in 45 resolutions by United Nations Human Rights Council since 2006. So there is nothing just about what they are up to.

So you are saying that the countries around Israel and Palestine shouldn't have sovereignty over their own borders?

So it's one rule for the UK and others in the world should just lump it?

[DodgyAgent]

What Israel is doing is not far off genocide though, blowing up innocent children is not on.

A bit like Syria then? how about answering the original post? The Allies by your same argument committed Genocide as soon as our bombers killed an "innocent"

[NotAllThere]

Are you saying Palestinians want to leave and Isreal wants them to leave, and the conflict is the fault of Egypt?

No. You said "People defend their homes". I said "No they don't, they run away", citing the current Syrian conflict. I then pointed out the reason you don't see Palestinians leaving to have a decent life is that the surrounding nations don't let them - because it wouldn't suit their political purposes.

It's not the same thing at all. The conflict has been going on for all of my lifetime and I'm middle aged. Israel has been condemned in 45 resolutions by United Nations Human Rights Council since 2006. So there is nothing just about what they are up to.

Resolutions overwhelming brought by nations that would dearly love to see Israel utterly eliminated. While there are certainly human rights violations carried out by Israel, the number of UN resolutions is hardly a neutral measure.

Sadly, the Palestinian plight is useful to the Arab and Muslim nations, as it gives them a hate target that allows them 1) to increase their popularity with their own population "look at us, we're being nasty to the hated Israel and/or 2) to distract their own population from the fact their ruled by vicious and corrupt governments. The only way they want an end, is if it entails Israel taken off the map.

[minestrone]

I see #hitlerWasRight was a fairly popular hashtag today.

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