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    #41
    Originally posted by edison View Post
    Not sure how accurate those figures can be when the listed average UX Manager rate is more than an IT Director and a Programme Director....
    I'm not sure how the site works. If the site screen scrapes the job boards then the averages may be inaccurate when the contract is rarely posted.

    I find the rates are more accurate for the more common roles.

    Also don't forget to click on the role/skill and you'll see more of a breakdown and you can see a histogram with the skew of rates.

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      #42
      Was looking at itjobswatch the other day and if the rates currently being shown as advertised for my skillset were valid then I think I would .

      The advertised rates were about 60% of my current pre-boom rate.

      I am also currently in the pipeline for another role, with another 5% increase.

      Maybe all the good roles get put straight through from agent to contractor without even seeing Jobserve etc...
      Never has a man been heard to say on his death bed that he wishes he'd spent more time in the office.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Scrag Meister View Post
        Was looking at itjobswatch the other day and if the rates currently being shown as advertised for my skillset were valid then I think I would .

        The advertised rates were about 60% of my current pre-boom rate.

        I am also currently in the pipeline for another role, with another 5% increase.

        Maybe all the good roles get put straight through from agent to contractor without even seeing Jobserve etc...
        I think you're right. When I look at Jobserve I get depressed, thinking about the cut I'll have to take to my rate. Then an agent calls me and I realise I can command the same, or a higher, rate than before still.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Ticktock View Post
          I think you're right. When I look at Jobserve I get depressed, thinking about the cut I'll have to take to my rate. Then an agent calls me and I realise I can command the same, or a higher, rate than before still.
          I think there are a few things to consider: Agents are always looking for the next wave of permies that think £300 a day is a great rate so they advertise to attract that type of person. Meanwhile the quiet back channels where they call up established guys is where the money truly flows well. I started poking around this week as there is a good chance that I am going to get the hoof in March thanks to a re-org and several really awful projects getting mothballed or canned altogether. So far the rates on offer from agents looking for my availability have been 650 - 750 day for infrastructure architecture type work.

          The fact that programme managers are showing lower than other skills is just an indication of the number of guys on the bench. I have a couple of good PM's in my client that are struggling to get over 400 a day. I would never recommend contracting to my PM mates.

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            #45
            Originally posted by bobspud View Post
            I think there are a few things to consider: Agents are always looking for the next wave of permies that think £300 a day is a great rate so they advertise to attract that type of person. Meanwhile the quiet back channels where they call up established guys is where the money truly flows well. I started poking around this week as there is a good chance that I am going to get the hoof in March thanks to a re-org and several really awful projects getting mothballed or canned altogether. So far the rates on offer from agents looking for my availability have been 650 - 750 day for infrastructure architecture type work.
            That's a good point about many high paid roles effectively being kept for well established contractors and perhaps not advertised.

            It also struck me that the oft quoted maxim of annual salary divided by 1000 being a roughly equivalent hourly contract rate starts to break down once you get towards £600/day. According to this formula £550/day equates to over £73k p.a. Look in a typical decent sized IT department and work out how many people are on at least that salary, probably not that many.

            Above about £70-80k salary, roles typically have a much higher proportion of non-salary benefits, in other words, there are unlikely to be many roles anywhere over £550/day unless you are a senior manager, have a very in demand skills set like enterprise architecture or work in IB.

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