Project Managers - I need your input please

[cojak]

I do also like to clarify whether the risks of the proposed approach are fully understood.

...and let's not forget checking that the requirements are being correctly managed...

[northernladuk]

I throw in the odd bit of chin stroking as well if it goes on too long. Just before I start pinching myself to stay awake...

Do the delegates in the meeting not get a bit upset when you start stroking their chins?

[northernladuk]

I don't think you should use the "IR35" excuse for not attempting to take on additional responsibilities. Switching skill-set is not easy and does require you to take a risk. You might even have to become a permie!

I didn't say don't do it because of IR35, just be aware if you do pull this off to be aware your IR35 situation will almost certainly change and either needs to be accounted for or insurances purchased.

[Old Greg]

...and let's not forget checking that the requirements are being correctly managed...

And that they remain valid as the business case is reviewed at stage boundary.

[kevpuk]

And that they remain valid as the business case is reviewed at stage boundary.

Not forgetting ensuring tactical changes do not have adverse strategic ramifications

[Old Greg]

Not forgetting ensuring tactical changes do not have adverse strategic ramifications

Or affect the benefit model.

[rurffy]

Thanks ,Lovely response from all, With the numerous response I think I am better off taking the Prince 2 course. I am already on a Team lead contract role working closely with the PM.

And to be honest I don’t see what he does. The only thing is schedule conf appointments, and appointments, and another appointment, and appointments. Then mayb in the end he summarises anything we (technical guys) have said in the meeting.

At the back of my mind - im thinking,…….. hmmm I could do what this bloke(PM) is doing now, give my brain a rest and even earn more. –


In all I think moving purely into PM contract roles with little/no experience is the problem –

Then how do I gain this experience if no is ready to get me on board without prior exp. (Then I think this is where - “going for a lower rate role comes in”)

[bluetoaster]

And to be honest I don’t see what he does. The only thing is schedule conf appointments, and appointments, and another appointment, and appointments. Then mayb in the end he summarises anything we (technical guys) have said in the meeting.

a common perception and a reason why there are so many tulip PMs around.

[Dallas]

Thanks ,Lovely response from all, With the numerous response I think I am better off taking the Prince 2 course. I am already on a Team lead contract role working closely with the PM.

And to be honest I don’t see what he does. The only thing is schedule conf appointments, and appointments, and another appointment, and appointments. Then mayb in the end he summarises anything we (technical guys) have said in the meeting.

At the back of my mind - im thinking,…….. hmmm I could do what this bloke(PM) is doing now, give my brain a rest and even earn more. –


In all I think moving purely into PM contract roles with little/no experience is the problem –

Then how do I gain this experience if no is ready to get me on board without prior exp. (Then I think this is where - “going for a lower rate role comes in”)

You cannot see what he does then you go on to make flippant comments about what you think he does.
You are inarticulate and clearly have no idea - basic skills to overcome to be a PM, please do us all a favour and go perm and learn the trade by completing a few projects.

[tomtomagain]

And to be honest I don’t see what he does.

So you're doing all the work and he is calm and in control.

Sounds like he his doing job right.