Request to work 12 hour shifts out of hours etc

[Gaz_M]

Are we talking about UCAS here?

[psychocandy]

FTFY

Yes agreed. Somewhat worrying the way the way the client views contractors I must admit. To be honest, they do seem to treat like short term permies. i.e. usual telling you what to do crap etc. Bit of an attitude also that they 'own' you for the period that you're working for them which is not on.

If push comes to shove, it would be difficult to argue that this was definitely outside IR35 it must be said. But, like I've always said, its a 7 weeks contract.

No extension on the table anyway but I won't be extending. Working here for a long contract and then having HMRC knock on the door would be a definite worry.

[jmo21]

Yes agreed. Somewhat worrying the way the way the client views contractors I must admit. To be honest, they do seem to treat like short term permies. i.e. usual telling you what to do crap etc. Bit of an attitude also that they 'own' you for the period that you're working for them which is not on.

Basically, that is exactly how most clients see contractors. They don't care about IR35, how you get paid, your tax etc, and nor should they.

[psychocandy]

Basically, that is exactly how most clients see contractors. They don't care about IR35, how you get paid, your tax etc, and nor should they.

Agreed. ALL clients just want you to show up, do the work, and not cause a fuss and upset the permies. However, MOST clients I've ever experienced do tend to leave you alone to get on with it and don't hassle you like they do the permies.

This includes criticism of hours worked, comments about dress code, general thinking they can 'tell' contractors what hours to work and how to behave. Not to me but generally to all contractors. It is exaclty like being a permie for a few weeks.

Last client, for all their issues, never told me what time to turn up, never moaned if I turned up late, never told me what to wear, and left me alone. I was there for over two years but not once did I get this hassle.

[psychocandy]

Hmmm. Had a bit of a 'disagreement' with PM last night.

Very strange fella. Its an outsourcing company so all he seems concerned about is making himself look good to his end client by having the place packed with bodies.

Had a problem last night that I was not involved in. There were already 4-5 people involved and it was not something I had any experience in (and I was doing other stuff).

Anyway, shortly before end of my 12 hours he tried to say everyone had to stay. Pointless for me to just sit there. And they had night shift coming in anyway. Don;t think he was too impressed with me.

[Contreras]

Hmmm. Had a bit of a 'disagreement' with PM last night.

Very strange fella.

Never mind. Just cross him off your Christmas card list and keep invoicing.

[TheFaQQer]

Hmmm. Had a bit of a 'disagreement' with PM last night.

Anyone else surprised?

[Antman]

Anyone else surprised?

I'm still catching up, I'm at the part where he's mildly surprised the farmer wouldn't let him have some manure for his roses.