Multiple roles, same organisation. Seeking advice.

[p3t3]

Hi all,

A hiring manager for role A has explicitly requested not to apply for other roles directly or via agency while we discuss his role (could be a week or longer). The following day an agent rings me about a role B at the same organisation that is at least as interesting.

What are the chances of either or both managers retracting applications if one were to find out the covenant was breached?

In general what's the soft agreement regarding interviewing for several contract opportunities within the same organisation?

Thanks.

[aussielong]

Hi all,

A hiring manager for role A has explicitly requested not to apply for other roles directly or via agency while we discuss his role (could be a week or longer). The following day an agent rings me about a role B at the same organisation that is at least as interesting.

What are the chances of either or both managers retracting applications if one were to find out the covenant was breached?

In general what's the soft agreement regarding interviewing for several contract opportunities within the same organisation?

Thanks.

I don't know but I have the same issue. An agent has put me forward for one role. A colleague has since told me about another role in same team which agent has not put me forward for. I don't know if I can go direct for second role. Does the agent intro count company/team wide, or role specific? Is it a gentlemans agreement, or legal one?

[p3t3]

An agent has put me forward for one role. A colleague has since told me about another role in same team which agent has not put me forward for.

I understand the agencies normally represent only for one role, so you are free to speak with as many managers as you like, it's your business.

Appreciate if we can go back to the question that I have raised, whereby a hiring manager has specifically requested not to apply for other roles while I am discussing their role. This is unusual, and hence my question.

What's people's gut feel? Let's hear some ideas!

[northernladuk]

In answer to Aussiedong, I would be surprised if a client will take direct contractors as well as agency. You would have expected if they had an agency agreement they would put them all through, particularly if the agent is the preferred supplier. I would send my details directly to the manager and expect one of a couple of scenarios to happen..

1) He just passes your name to the agent when he puts the role with them if he hasn't already
2) He may interview you and accept but you still have to go via agency for contract etc.
3) He just says contact agency

Either way I see no harm in applying. Agency is still likely to get his cut with no effort so shouldn't be a problem.

[b0redom]

Why don't you call the hiring manager and explain the situation? You really want to take his gig, but can't risk losing work over it.

[BolshieBastard]

Hi all,

A hiring manager for role A has explicitly requested not to apply for other roles directly or via agency while we discuss his role (could be a week or longer). The following day an agent rings me about a role B at the same organisation that is at least as interesting.

What are the chances of either or both managers retracting applications if one were to find out the covenant was breached?

In general what's the soft agreement regarding interviewing for several contract opportunities within the same organisation?

Thanks.

Maybe my understanding of

has explicitly requested not to apply for other roles directly or via agency

is different to yours?

Surely, you arent going to jeopardise this role by doing the opposite of what he has asked \ said?

If you are intent on applying, you need to speak to this hiring manager rather than go behind his back.

[p3t3]

Maybe my understanding of is different to yours?

Surely, you arent going to jeopardise this role by doing the opposite of what he has asked \ said?

If you are intent on applying, you need to speak to this hiring manager rather than go behind his back.

Well, the manager has made it very clear not to apply for any other roles within this big organisation. I find it unusual, and don't understand why I would be going behind someone's back. When you pitch a business you approach any potential client, right?

[BolshieBastard]

Well, the manager has made it very clear not to apply for any other roles within this big organisation. I find it unusual, and don't understand why I would be going behind someone's back. When you pitch a business you approach any potential client, right?

You approach any potential client but, if the client says 'I dont want you to do ........' do you seriously just ignore it?

But hey, its up to you. You asked for advice, I gave you mine. All Im saying is if you want to apply for other roles in the same organisation, dont you think you owe it to the guy and tell him there are other opportunities in the co that you'd like to pitch for?

If you dont, fair enough. Its your call.

[VectraMan]

Why don't you call the hiring manager and explain the situation? You really want to take his gig, but can't risk losing work over it.

WHS. If you've got potential other work it'll give the guy a bit of a hurry up.

[Taita]

Maybe my understanding of is different to yours?

Surely, you arent going to jeopardise this role by doing the opposite of what he has asked \ said?

If you are intent on applying, you need to speak to this hiring manager rather than go behind his back.

Sensible advice.