Short Term extension / cover

**quackhandle** · 12 March 2013, 13:36

You don't ask you don't get.

Just say you're in demand, but it's only 1-4 weeks extra, short gigs come with increase in daily rate - company policy and all that.

qh

**psychocandy** · 12 March 2013, 14:09

LOL. Chances of client going for this? ;-)

They'll just want a bit of extra work at same price. Wont want to pay a premium for it because its 'short'. And will think you're blackmailing them if you want to charge extra.

**Scrag Meister** · 12 March 2013, 14:10

Depends how likely the other projects coming off are.

Personally if its short term and nothing afterwards then I would be asking for some increase.

Also WQHS, Don't ask don't get.

**northernladuk** · 12 March 2013, 14:17

Originally posted by psychocandy View Post

LOL. Chances of client going for this? ;-)

They'll just want a bit of extra work at same price. Wont want to pay a premium for it because its 'short'. And will think you're blackmailing them if you want to charge extra.

You need to sack your client, get another gig and learn something about clients. Your time there is blinkering you to how other clients can work and how to negotiate with them. They don't hate you like you hate them and can be negotiated with. A new client might make you in to a contractor rather than a moaning employer hating permie. They your customer, a bit of respect wouldn't go a miss on that fact alone.

Upping the rate by a smallish amount to cover inconvenience and as a retainer to stop you leaving and taking a 6 monther at the same rate could make sense. At the end of the day though it is down to budget and the bean counters.

Propose it to them like a buiness with reasons why you want the rise though rather than just dictate what you want and that's that.

**TheFaQQer** · 12 March 2013, 14:29

Originally posted by psychocandy View Post

LOL. Chances of client going for this? ;-)

They'll just want a bit of extra work at same price. Wont want to pay a premium for it because its 'short'. And will think you're blackmailing them if you want to charge extra.

This, exactly.

It's rare / exceptional for a client not to see it this way.

**northernladuk** · 12 March 2013, 14:42

Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post

This, exactly.

It's rare / exceptional for a client not to see it this way.

I don't completely agree. Maybe on the outset but I do believe it is open for discussion. This has happened on at least one of my last clients. If the client want him and it is under circumstances that don't suit him they should know they may have to negotiate.

**Antman** · 12 March 2013, 17:14

In my case I got a short extension recently because, the business had projects in the pipeline and were waiting on getting them signed off. They didn't want to lose the person with knowledge of the systems so I got an extension.

I can see the reason for asking for more because of the hassle of short contracts, but in my case it's difficult to ask for because I'm twiddling my thumbs (disguised as producing continuous business value).

**psychocandy** · 12 March 2013, 17:15

Originally posted by northernladuk View Post

You need to sack your client, get another gig and learn something about clients. Your time there is blinkering you to how other clients can work and how to negotiate with them. They don't hate you like you hate them and can be negotiated with. A new client might make you in to a contractor rather than a moaning employer hating permie. They your customer, a bit of respect wouldn't go a miss on that fact alone.

Upping the rate by a smallish amount to cover inconvenience and as a retainer to stop you leaving and taking a 6 monther at the same rate could make sense. At the end of the day though it is down to budget and the bean counters.

Propose it to them like a buiness with reasons why you want the rise though rather than just dictate what you want and that's that.

Not wanting to get into a willy waving contest but remind me how long you've been contracting and how many contracts you've had?

I see others agree with me too. I wasnt being specific about my current client but most won't be keen to pay extra in 99% of cases I reckon. Sometimes even if the local manager wanted to they'd never get a perceived increase in budget past all the necessary red tape.

And BTW I don't hate my client at all - that comment was a bit harsh. They do business as they want, I do business as I want. Just because they annoy me sometimes doesnt mean I hate them. Tescos run out of cornflakes sometimes and even though it might be annoying I dont hate them!

The people I work with locally are great, the PM is a decent bloke, just some of the admin stuff gets tied up in large company red tape which is a bit annoying.

But has anyone got a client who they think is brilliant all the time after all? This is site for contractors not one for people to sing praises about their clients. You've got to expect some honest opinions and moaning.

**Ignis Fatuus** · 12 March 2013, 17:18

Originally posted by northernladuk View Post

You need to sack your client, get another gig and learn something about clients. Your time there is blinkering you to how other clients can work and how to negotiate with them. They don't hate you like you hate them and can be negotiated with. A new client might make you in to a contractor rather than a moaning employer hating permie. They your customer, a bit of respect wouldn't go a miss on that fact alone.

Upping the rate by a smallish amount to cover inconvenience and as a retainer to stop you leaving and taking a 6 monther at the same rate could make sense. At the end of the day though it is down to budget and the bean counters.

Propose it to them like a buiness with reasons why you want the rise though rather than just dictate what you want and that's that.

Surely there must be some NLUK comment generator material here?

Short Term extension / cover