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    #11
    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    That means you didn't get it. Move on.

    Agents are paid on placing people. If you are not going to earn him any revenue you are dead to him. The slience is your response. If he wants your phone will be ringing off the hook.
    Agree with NLUK.

    You dont get role therefore agent being nice and letting you know just wont happen. Income from being nice = £0.

    You get the role and agent can smell income. If he can't get hold of you, he'll crawl over broken glass to get to you to accept the contract.
    Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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      #12
      Originally posted by alluvial View Post
      Still pretty bad though in my opinion.

      My experience was that you always got some feedback from an interview even if it was negative, recently though, it does seem to be that the silent treatment is the norm these days. I think that it is downright rude and uprofessional to not provide feedback especially when you may have forgone a day's income and travelled for some distance. Contrary to what most might think, my recent experience has shown that it is more the client (a certain large bank in particular) rather than the agent that is guilty of this.
      But since when has professionalism mattered to agents? Only money matters.

      In my experience, there are one or two who will treat you properly but they're not the norm. Sometimes I think its only to keep you sweet because they know something else will come along soon and your a good prospect.
      Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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        #13
        Originally posted by Gentile View Post
        I disagree. Fair enough, you don't expect feedback from every CV you send out, but I do expect the courtesy of a simple "yes" or "no" from an interview I've spent my time attending. Any agency or client that doesn't observe that small courtesy isn't someone I'd entertain interviewing with/through again.
        In an ideal world, yes, and its nice to expect that and probably fair. Will it happen though? Unlikely.

        Trouble is its not just the odd agent/client who may do this. Its about 95% of them.

        To be honest, I dont waste my time more than once. Usually find its like getting blood out of stone. You phone agent, hes away from desk (surprise surprise!) so you leave a message. He never phones you back for previous reasons. You do it again. Waste of time.

        Unfortunately, if I only dealt with agents/clients who acted professionally then I'd be severely restricting my options. Would be nice to be choosy but I'm not that good! :-)

        On the other hand, there is one agency, intapeople in cardiff, that is very good. Not like the others at all. They pretty much always phone back.
        Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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          #14
          Originally posted by Gentile View Post
          I disagree. Fair enough, you don't expect feedback from every CV you send out, but I do expect the courtesy of a simple "yes" or "no" from an interview I've spent my time attending. Any agency or client that doesn't observe that small courtesy isn't someone I'd entertain interviewing with/through again.
          He got a no... Actions speak louder than words as they say... Couldn't be much clearer
          'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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            #15
            If you do not hear for a while about the role and your interviews went well, it may be that the end client has not responded and takes time to do so. In some cases, customers have to get things signed off and have lots of red tape. However, your agent should respond with a progress update and give you more details on when you can expect an answer.

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              #16
              Originally posted by alluvial View Post
              Still pretty bad though in my opinion.

              My experience was that you always got some feedback from an interview even if it was negative, recently though, it does seem to be that the silent treatment is the norm these days. I think that it is downright rude and uprofessional to not provide feedback especially when you may have forgone a day's income and travelled for some distance. Contrary to what most might think, my recent experience has shown that it is more the client (a certain large bank in particular) rather than the agent that is guilty of this.
              Agree

              Originally posted by Gentile View Post
              I disagree. Fair enough, you don't expect feedback from every CV you send out, but I do expect the courtesy of a simple "yes" or "no" from an interview I've spent my time attending. Any agency or client that doesn't observe that small courtesy isn't someone I'd entertain interviewing with/through again.
              Agree

              That's what gives agents bad reputations - well one of many reasons anyway...
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                #17
                Originally posted by sunflower View Post
                If you do not hear for a while about the role and your interviews went well, it may be that the end client has not responded and takes time to do so. In some cases, customers have to get things signed off and have lots of red tape. However, your agent should respond with a progress update and give you more details on when you can expect an answer.
                Yeh but if the agent thinks this is the case and you may get the gig they will update you. If they dont even phone you back ever its because they know you aint got it.

                If theres a delay with the client, but agent thinks you've got a shout, you can guarantee they'll contact you to tell you its looking good and its going to be sorted asap. Even if its not.
                Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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                  #18
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                  Often it's not rudeness, they simply want to keep you hanging on. Bear in mind that if you are 2nd or 3rd choice, the agent has to make the 1st choice an offer (may not be the same agent as yours), then it has to be accepted, it all takes time. How many times do we see posted here 'Had the int, got the gig, haven't got the contract through 2 weeks later and I'm sposed to start tomorrow'?

                  If you are second, the agent wants to keep you hanging on so says nothing or claims they've had no feedback yet, because often, the first choice may have upped sticks and taken something else and they want you waiting there.

                  Happened to me before and a month later, out of the blue comes a call, 'Are you still available?' When I got there, I found that first choice had been tried and found wanting so they replaced them with me.

                  I suggest that you don't give it up, just put it to the back of your mind as a possible and then forget it. Get a few more lined up and go from there.

                  Feedback is overrated anyway, they will rarely tell you the real reasons for refusal because they don't want a point blank argument, they don't want to offend, they don't want to risk being sued and any number of other reasons.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by tractor View Post
                    Often it's not rudeness, they simply want to keep you hanging on. Bear in mind that if you are 2nd or 3rd choice, the agent has to make the 1st choice an offer (may not be the same agent as yours), then it has to be accepted, it all takes time. How many times do we see posted here 'Had the int, got the gig, haven't got the contract through 2 weeks later and I'm sposed to start tomorrow'?
                    WTS

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                      #20
                      Sorry but I can't tolerate the bad manners and lack of basic courtesy. It takes time, effort, logistics and costs to attend interviews (sometime two) and/or take technical exams at the Agency or Client sites which are often arranged at short notice or on inconvenient dates, only to hear nothing afterwards, not even a one line email "Well done" or "Better luck next time".

                      To add insult to injury, Sometimes a polite follow up email inquiry returns a "Deleted Unopened Message" receipt. Just as well not all are so nasty as I have had equally very helpful suggestions and tips towards the next interview or CV revamp from the professional side of the industry.

                      Sadly the change has come about because we rarely see IT professionals switching to recruitment as in the old days, instead we now have a "Stack them high Sell them cheap" market that attracts ... Well you decide.

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