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    #11
    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
    ...but what do you do if you're near the end of a dead end project or something and a cracking contract comes up? Kick new contact into touch and stay loyal?

    Loyalty and Principles dont pay the bills....
    Sadly that's exactly what happened to me on this particular project - I accepted an extension instead of a cracker of a contract I could have got had I refused the ext.

    Rather blinded by loyalty for a dog of a project and management who didn't give a damn...
    "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
    - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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      #12
      Originally posted by psychocandy View Post

      Loyalty and Principles dont pay the bills....
      Professionalism does though. Being mercenary doesn't keep you in a career and could come back and bite you. There is a line to be fair but that is down to personal choice I think.
      'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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        #13
        I'm in the opposite situation, work here has dried up and I foolishly assumed I'd be benched today, but instead I was offered a renewal two days ago, for 2 months. So I'd psyched myself up for a bit of a break and as there is almost nothing to do here at the moment I was ok with a bit of bench time.

        In actuality renewal is for one month now but that's by-the-by, fact is I want the next week off and the start the renewal after that, and it's dragging on, agent trying to 'authorise' my 'vacation' with my 'manager' when at the end of the day, I can just decline and go home. Money is money tho!

        Contract is in my inbox to e-sign, but I can't see the issue because there is very little work here now! And I've not booked accom/travel ahead because it just seem so obvious there would be no renewal, as there is no work and mention of it till two days ago....

        Maybe I should swallow my pride but I've already been stiffed on rate, contract period and urgency on this one (my fault I know) but still, walking might restore my mojo....

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          #14
          Originally posted by cojak View Post
          Sadly that's exactly what happened to me on this particular project - I accepted an extension instead of a cracker of a contract I could have got had I refused the ext.

          Rather blinded by loyalty for a dog of a project and management who didn't give a damn...
          Cojak - I had you down as tougher than that!

          I certainly wouldn't sign an extension out of loyalty if I had a better offer.
          Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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            #15
            Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
            Professionalism does though. Being mercenary doesn't keep you in a career and could come back and bite you. There is a line to be fair but that is down to personal choice I think.
            Yeh. I agree with you. Act like a twat and let people down and word will get around.

            But, ultimately, you do whats best for you? Bottom line.

            Not sure if I've told this story. A mate of mine helped get me a permie job years ago. Mate loved this company and would do anything. One year he cancelled his holiday two days before going because the company asked him to do some urgent work. His wife went nuts. I told him he was off his nut but he wouldn't have it.

            A year later, suddenly he's out the door same day as me with a few others. Company didn't even do redundancies properly - just put everyone on trumped up disciplinary for conduct and then said leave, sign this agreement, and we'll pay you x amount. Otherwise you're suspended.

            Mate was gutted. Never seen a guy so deflated. Of course, we all got kicked out the building straight away. Mate thought manager in question would save him (the one he'd cancelled his holiday and done the work for). Tried ringing him, left messages, never ever got to speak to him.

            Lesson learnt.
            Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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              #16
              Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
              Yeh. I agree with you. Act like a twat and let people down and word will get around.

              But, ultimately, you do whats best for you? Bottom line.

              Not sure if I've told this story. A mate of mine helped get me a permie job years ago. Mate loved this company and would do anything. One year he cancelled his holiday two days before going because the company asked him to do some urgent work. His wife went nuts. I told him he was off his nut but he wouldn't have it.

              A year later, suddenly he's out the door same day as me with a few others. Company didn't even do redundancies properly - just put everyone on trumped up disciplinary for conduct and then said leave, sign this agreement, and we'll pay you x amount. Otherwise you're suspended.

              Mate was gutted. Never seen a guy so deflated. Of course, we all got kicked out the building straight away. Mate thought manager in question would save him (the one he'd cancelled his holiday and done the work for). Tried ringing him, left messages, never ever got to speak to him.

              Lesson learnt.
              And this proves what? For a start it is permieville and it happens.
              'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                #17
                Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                And this proves what? For a start it is permieville and it happens.
                Just highlighting that you shouldn't get too hung up with being loyal, being fair to clients/employers. Look after yourself.
                Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
                  Cojak - I had you down as tougher than that!

                  I certainly wouldn't sign an extension out of loyalty if I had a better offer.
                  I saw it as professionalism, I will take a far more realistic risk assessment when I find myself in this position again.
                  "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
                  - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
                    Just highlighting that you shouldn't get too hung up with being loyal, being fair to clients/employers. Look after yourself.
                    Just because you get finished isn't nice but it is business and not something to go all mercenary about IMO... and again that is permie land. You can't bring that kind of employer experience and use it verbatim when you are dealing with clients and b2b relationships. tulip happens, get over it and move on....Personally I don't know one person that has been made redundant and hasn't got a better job. Permies need that kind of schizzle else they would never leave a job to get a better one.
                    'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
                      Yeh. I agree with you. Act like a twat and let people down and word will get around.
                      I do find it strange that people seem to think that word gets around about individuals of which there are many, but never seems to get around about companies of which there are fewer.

                      I had a similar story at a permie job I had. We were doing a MRP roll out and everyone had been asked by the MD not to take holidays during go live, which kept moving back and back due to management ineptitude so it ended up spanning about 3 months over summer. Come the end of the year, lots of people hadnt taken their full holiday entitlement and were expecting either to transfer them to next year or be paid for them having done the company a favour in not taking them. MD's position was if you hadnt used them you've lost them!

                      If you have ever read Crystal Singer by Anne McCaffrey you might remember her saying that gratitude for past favours is dependent on memory of them.

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