Thing is for testing roles they ask for a number years experience, therefore you have to go back to provide sufficient evidence on you C.V. that you have had that experience and in doing so you can evidence your skills. No two jobs read the same on my C.V. I've tried to make them as unique as possible focusing on new skills I learnt and accomplishments at that particular company. It's tried and tested now, so I'm not going to change it much if at all
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Don't be so soft.Originally posted by JohannM View Post
I've been pulled up a lot of times about my spelling.
Though I know I'm a bad speller especially when tired so I check it, check it again and check it again on important documents.
Likewise if someone points out your grammar is bad just point out English isn't your first language and you get it checked on important documents. There is no need to start taking offence where none is intented."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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"You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Think about your CV in terms of a snipers bullet. You get one shot into the agent then it has to travel through the clients HR department and hit the manager square in the face...Originally posted by oscarose View Post
Word allows 24 lines per page. I automatically dump anything longer than 4 pages because it tells me the candidate has not bothered to think about what is relevant to me and thinks I want to read 10 pages of everything from year dot...
So for a 4 sided cv thats just 96 lines to give enough information to get you in the door. Now allow for word searching and blank lines to make the CV more readable, and bare in mind that the agency will hack your CV into bits, not trying too hard to fit it into their own template. If you have ever had the misfortune to receive a batch of agency CV's while hiring someone it looks a bit like the results of a gorilla pushing an elephant into a mini.
IMO if your career spans more than 10 years and your education and other un-interesting crap is still taking up space. What you risk saying is that I have done so little since I left school or university I need to leave this crap in to fill space. God forbid that the result is a 2:2 in meejya studies! At least have the grace to crow about a relevant subject with a great result... To me a first says I did what I came to do. None of this drinking mans degree crap
For the last 8 years my name, email address and mobile number have been shoved into the Headers and Footers, just so I can tell my clients about all the fantastic stuff I have done in the other 96 lines...
There are things in a contractors CV that speak volumes more than education. Namely Length of gig and number of extensions in that time. Repeat clients and most of all, the ability for the candidate to be concise and tell me what I want to know about them thats relevant to the role that I have in my team...Comment
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It was sarcastic Sue. I would only worry if that comment was made by NLUKOriginally posted by SueEllen View Post
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Am from Yorkshire. We are bred illiterate. Case closed.Originally posted by JohannM View PostIt was sarcastic Sue. I would only worry if that comment was made by NLUK'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!
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I think if your cv is so broad that spans 7 pages you should just give your link to your wikipedia page.
Here's mine.<Insert idea here> will never be adopted because the politicians are in the pockets of the banks!Comment
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HTHOriginally posted by bobspud View PostThink about your CV in terms of a snipers bullet. You get one shot into the agent then it has to travel through the clients HR department and hit the manager square in the face... This is why cv's are almost a waste of time from the contractor point of view. Too hit and miss, if you miss one invisible check box (self imposed) by the reviewer, you're in the bin.
Word allows 24 lines per page. I automatically dump anything longer than 4 pages because it tells me the candidate has not bothered to think about what is relevant to me and thinks I want to read 10 pages of everything from year dot... Most of the time, given the crappy cookie cutter role specs put out by clients and massaged by agents no one has a clue what you are really looking for and even worse what leaves your email bears very little relevance to what arrives on JobServe or the like. Most are hashed into the ubiquitous 'end to end lifecycle experience, senior level 'whatever', Stakeholder management experience etc'. How many of us have been on a project where you wouldn't be allowed on the same site as a stakeholder lest you inadvertently let on about quality, delivery, scope creep, descoping etc. If you find you are getting crap results too often, change your agent, train your agent and above all, ask for copies of their ads so that you can be sure you are at least hitting the target with your own sniper shot!!
So for a 4 sided cv thats just 96 lines to give enough information to get you in the door. Now allow for word searching and blank lines to make the CV more readable, and bare in mind that the agency will hack your CV into bits, not trying too hard to fit it into their own template. If you have ever had the misfortune to receive a batch of agency CV's while hiring someone it looks a bit like the results of a gorilla pushing an elephant into a mini. The number of times an agent's lackey has discounted my cv because they were too stupid to read what is in front of them and they miss a key point because they are either blind, stupid or both is too many to recount. What chance is there when you often cannot get past the organ grinder's monkey?
IMO if your career spans more than 10 years and your education and other un-interesting crap is still taking up space. What you risk saying is that I have done so little since I left school or university I need to leave this crap in to fill space. God forbid that the result is a 2:2 in meejya studies! At least have the grace to crow about a relevant subject with a great result... To me a first says I did what I came to do. None of this drinking mans degree crap Most of the time you are not really in need of a ninja or SAS trooper, you really only want a technically competent person with a little drive and a history of contract longevity. So why place so much relevance on this type of trait?
For the last 8 years my name, email address and mobile number have been shoved into the Headers and Footers, just so I can tell my clients about all the fantastic stuff I have done in the other 96 lines... Over my 25 year career, I always ask and mostly get references prior to finishing up a role. I have often thought about ditching everything but a list of technical and soft skills on page 2 and filling page 1 with a bunch of choice lines from said references. Given the previous point about agents not actually reading or even understanding what is in front of them, what is the point of perpetuating their inability?
There are things in a contractors CV that speak volumes more than education. Namely Length of gig and number of extensions in that time. Repeat clients and most of all, the ability for the candidate to be concise and tell me what I want to know about them thats relevant to the role that I have in my team...Like I said, mostly it is impossible to guess what a client really wants at the cv stage. That's why you get 25lb howitzer shells instead of a .762 to the brain lol!
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