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    #11
    Originally posted by kaiser78 View Post
    Live and learn for your next role - as a contractor keep your head down and nose clean (metaphorically speaking)...
    Thanks for all the advice. It does seem a little clearer now. I got caught up in a rut of a job and just lived with the problems.

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      #12
      Originally posted by SajStars View Post
      Thanks for all the advice. It does seem a little clearer now. I got caught up in a rut of a job and just lived with the problems.
      You have to apply a bit of brutal honesty here and ask yourself were you part of the problem and address the issues. There is always two sides to the story. If you want to fix them you have to be honest to both sides of the story. If you want to push it under the carpet and risk causing issues at your next gig just blame your cilent.
      'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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        #13
        Who were the managers working for? Are they employed by the client, or [and don't flame me here for being presumtious and judgmental, I know I am] working for one of the Indian consultancies?

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          #14
          Originally posted by JoJoGabor View Post
          Who were the managers working for? Are they employed by the client, or [and don't flame me here for being presumtious and judgmental, I know I am] working for one of the Indian consultancies?
          The managers had been working directly for the charity for a number of years as permi's (5yrs). One was an African and the other an Indian. Between both of them they could control what was going on.

          They hired another couple of contractors in order for g's. Greed - always catches people out!

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            #15
            Originally posted by wim121 View Post
            print out an event viewer of his work PC
            How do you do that?
            And on the eighth day God said, "Okay, Murphy, you're in charge!"

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              #16
              Originally posted by manclarky View Post
              How do you do that?
              I did a Google search and found this - which implies you can't print out the event viewer!

              Is there a way to print out the event log? : WindowsAdminPrintEventLog
              And on the eighth day God said, "Okay, Murphy, you're in charge!"

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                #17
                Originally posted by manclarky View Post
                I did a Google search and found this - which implies you can't print out the event viewer!

                Is there a way to print out the event log? : WindowsAdminPrintEventLog
                Even if the OP could print out the Event Log, the chances of it being accepted as evidence in a court of law would be slim to nil unless he was able to prove that the print out was forensically obtained.
                If your company is the best place to work in, for a mere £500 p/d, you can advertise here.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by pmeswani View Post
                  Even if the OP could print out the Event Log, the chances of it being accepted as evidence in a court of law would be slim to nil unless he was able to prove that the print out was forensically obtained.
                  Indeed, but providing it then enables the police to seize and verify your accounts. That was just one method I suggested. You could save your receipts from the shop around the corner or petrol station, anything really, any supporting evidence that backs up your story.

                  I always save every receipt and make sure my hours are plausible and get something on the way home for instance. I know a couple of people that have submitted receipts to an umbrella co. and then thrown them away. Later in the year, HMRC gives them an audit and they have no receipts to back up their allowance claims which makes life very difficult. Ask most umbrella companies or accountants and they may give you the same advice, save receipts, back up your hours to a reasonable degree.

                  In short, it is just good working practice, whether you're working in a dodgy situation or not.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by wim121 View Post
                    Indeed, but providing it then enables the police to seize and verify your accounts.
                    No it wouldn't. Even if the police would take your word for it that the information is genuine and factual, you are risking the client in sueing you for theft and breach of contract, especially if you own up to taking the information from the client. Just in case you don't know, any information, ranging from Event Logs from a computer to taking a whole database (or financial information) constitutes as theft. If you want to risk being sued and you think you will no doubtly win, go for it. You may also get done under the Computer Misues Act (I am not 100% on this, and I will need to double check if I can be arsed).

                    Originally posted by wim121 View Post
                    That was just one method I suggested. You could save your receipts from the shop around the corner or petrol station, anything really, any supporting evidence that backs up your story.
                    Doesn't prove a thing. All it proves is that you went to the shop around the corner from client co and to the petrol station. It doesn't prove you were at the client site.

                    Originally posted by wim121 View Post
                    I always save every receipt and make sure my hours are plausible and get something on the way home for instance. I know a couple of people that have submitted receipts to an umbrella co. and then thrown them away. Later in the year, HMRC gives them an audit and they have no receipts to back up their allowance claims which makes life very difficult. Ask most umbrella companies or accountants and they may give you the same advice, save receipts, back up your hours to a reasonable degree.

                    In short, it is just good working practice, whether you're working in a dodgy situation or not.
                    It may be good working practice to keep receipts for claiming expenses, but it isn't evidence in a court of law to prove you worked at a client site. To think otherwise is somewhat dillusional. However, if you have a court case that contradicts everything I have said, by all means publish it on this thread and I will be more than happy to read it.
                    If your company is the best place to work in, for a mere £500 p/d, you can advertise here.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by pmeswani View Post
                      ...Doesn't prove a thing. All it proves is that you went to the shop around the corner from client co and to the petrol station. It doesn't prove you were at the client site....
                      It's called corroborating evidence. It backs up your story.

                      When people are having difficulty with employers, clients or agencies, I always recommend documentating any untoward events. It doesn't prove anything, but should it come to court, it makes your testimony appear considerably more reliable.
                      Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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