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Do contracts ruin your career?

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    #31
    Originally posted by diddak28 View Post
    I worked 1 year in a blue chip doing functional Siebel.
    You'll find it hard to get a decent paying role as a Siebel functional with that little experience. Particularly if it wasn't a consultancy - but if you can take a low rate (and there are plenty out there!) to prove your worth then you might move onto something better, but I doubt it.
    Originally posted by diddak28 View Post
    1. Maybe the dont like contractors for permenant roles? (They may think you did it once, why not repeat it after a few months?)
    Depends on the employer. I know that at one stage, Oracle Consulting wound't touch ex-contractors in permie positions - certainly they wouldn't take those that had jumped, done a quick gig and then wanted to jump straight back. I think that some employers would look more favourable on those that can spell complex words like "permanent" correctly, though.
    Originally posted by diddak28 View Post
    2. Do firms consider contracting as unemployment period?
    Not sure I understand the question - if you are contracting, and in a contract then you aren't unemployed. If you are contracting and not in a contract, then if you are employed then you aren't unemployed. If you are unemployed, then it counts as an unemployed period.
    Originally posted by diddak28 View Post
    3. If it is not to face any difficulties to get again into permanent roles, I would do it. But do HR managers dont like it if it see you were a contractor?
    I think the attention to detail might be more constricting than whether you have been a contractor or not.
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      #32
      Originally posted by Notascooby View Post

      Career - you'll only get that as a perm, as a contractor, you're responsible for furthering your knowledge, no one but yourself is going to fund training and feedback is given on extensions.
      I tend to disagree. IT contractors have a career in IT, just as, for example, freelance journalists have a career in journalism or have I missed the point?

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        #33
        Originally posted by Catatonic View Post
        I tend to disagree. IT contractors have a career in IT, just as, for example, freelance journalists have a career in journalism or have I missed the point?
        No I'd agree with sentiment
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          #34
          Originally posted by Catatonic View Post
          I tend to disagree. IT contractors have a career in IT, just as, for example, freelance journalists have a career in journalism or have I missed the point?
          There is probably an important distinction to made between a career in contracting vs. a corporate career.

          A contractor can hope to progress in their career by becoming more experienced and/or senior, i.e. move up the ranks in their industry/field which should equate to higher compensation rates. The moves to new roles are usually but not always sideways.

          While corporate career progression is typically achieved by 10% merit and 90% empire building, playing politics and a$$ kissing. If you're really good at the latter and given the patience then moving upwards is possible.

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            #35
            Originally posted by The Spartan View Post
            No I'd agree with sentiment
            But he has missed the point.

            The OP is talking about growing his career from 1 year. IT Contractors do have a career but he had to start from nothing to something with skills he can sell before became that IT contractor. That career is then pretty flat. The OP is not at that position yet so is talking about a career which he can progress to a different level.. if that makes sense.

            Saying that I suspect our esteemed OP may not have English as his first language so that is what I read in to it.

            EDIT : Didn't spot Rambaughs comments which are good.
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              #36
              Originally posted by rambaugh View Post
              There is probably an important distinction to made between a career in contracting vs. a corporate career.

              A contractor can hope to progress in their career by becoming more experienced and/or senior, i.e. move up the ranks in their industry/field which should equate to higher compensation rates. The moves to new roles are usually but not always sideways.

              While corporate career progression is typically achieved by 10% merit and 90% empire building, playing politics and a$$ kissing. If you're really good at the latter and given the patience then moving upwards is possible.
              I agree these are different ball games.

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                #37
                Originally posted by diddak28 View Post
                Hello,

                I d like to ask because I am not quite sure. I have 1 year experience in IT. I want to continue and build my career. If I go for a 3-6month contract and then try to continue, does this affect my career? You can earn a lot ..but does it have any disadvantages in terms of your career?
                Hopefully yes
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                  But he has missed the point.

                  The OP is talking about growing his career from 1 year. IT Contractors do have a career but he had to start from nothing to something with skills he can sell before became that IT contractor. That career is then pretty flat. The OP is not at that position yet so is talking about a career which he can progress to a different level.. if that makes sense.

                  Saying that I suspect our esteemed OP may not have English as his first language so that is what I read in to it.

                  EDIT : Didn't spot Rambaughs comments which are good.
                  I don't believe I have missed the point. I was replying to NotaScooby's post which containing a sweeping statement stating that we (IT contractors) do not have careers. Rambaugh has since clarified this very clearly.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                    But he has missed the point.

                    The OP is talking about growing his career from 1 year. IT Contractors do have a career but he had to start from nothing to something with skills he can sell before became that IT contractor.
                    He probably already has some skills he can sell.

                    I was in a similar situation to him when I started out but moved to another permanent role becasue the roles I was offered used a very limited part of my skillset.

                    In the next permanent role I managed to do more training at the company's expense, and learnt more business skills from working with more experienced people who were willing to help me.

                    One thing that shouldn't be overlooked as a contractor you tend to be pigeon holed into a position there as at the start of your career you need exposure to as much as possible even if it doesn't end up being your specialism.
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