Agencies to avoid....

[cojak]

How about proven conjecture?

OK - Conjecture.

[northernladuk]

So isn't that kind of behaviour harassment or bullying behaviour by an agency ?

It's doing businesses. Not good business to be fair but business. They want to get their way, you don't want it so act accordingly.

I guess if you are a wilting wall flower unable to handle hardnosed business then I guess you could see it as that. If you do see it as that it might be best not mentioning it so your peers don't think you are a wet lettuce. HTH

[AussieDigger]

The opting out thing - a few agencies try this. Ranges from an email telling me "I've forgotten to fill in the form" to "every other contractor opts out" to "if you dont opt out your inside IR35". Sometimes they keep asking even when you say no thanks.

Even had one who send an arsey email saying I couldn't continue unless I opted out. Then is the time to ignore/screen calls. They are not going to drag you out of a client just because you refuse to opt out. Ignore them.

So isn't that kind of behaviour harassment or bullying behaviour by an agency ?

[SeanT]

Hypothetical conjecture has no place here.

How about proven conjecture?

[cojak]

May I remind posters that the reason this thread still exists is that you have direct experience of these agencies, your posts are based on facts and can provide proof that these facts/events occurred.

Hypothetical conjecture has no place here.

[SueEllen]

The thing is there are certain sectors where you can't opt out so the agency can tell you you have to opt out but legally it is unenforceable regardless.

Plus even if you are forced to opt out there is nothing stopping you negotiating payment and handcuff clauses.

[stek]

Can't remember who it was but there was an agency who clearly stated this on their web site...rightly or wrongly.

Was Lorien I think....?

[northernladuk]

Can't remember who it was but there was an agency who clearly stated this on their web site...rightly or wrongly.

There is not right or wrong. It's a business decision.

[SteelyDan]

They won't drag you out, and it's too late by then anyway, but then can refuse to deal with contractors that don't want to opt out. I'm not sure ignoring them is the best option. I certainly wouldn't even think about jeapordising a potential gig over opt in/out status.

Can't remember who it was but there was an agency who clearly stated this on their web site...rightly or wrongly.

[SueEllen]

The opting out thing - a few agencies try this. Ranges from an email telling me "I've forgotten to fill in the form" to "every other contractor opts out" to "if you dont opt out your inside IR35". Sometimes they keep asking even when you say no thanks.

Even had one who send an arsey email saying I couldn't continue unless I opted out. Then is the time to ignore/screen calls. They are not going to drag you out of a client just because you refuse to opt out. Ignore them.

If you are near the end of the contract politely point out why it is irrelevant.