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Advice please. Buying property 50% ltd / 50% private

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    Advice please. Buying property 50% ltd / 50% private

    Hi all,

    My Name is Conor and I run an I.T consultancy.

    First may i say that this is a fantastic set of forums. I have searched but did not find an answer to what i am about to propose.

    I am looking to buy a property for around £120k. In my companies account I can afford to pay 60k. I have searched and searched but cannot find a broker who will do a buy to let mortgage for a LTD company for the other 60k.

    I had the idea of buying 50% of the property through my company, then getting a regular mortgage for the other 50%. The property will then be rented out as a long term let to someone I have already lined up.

    The rental would cover the 50% mortgage and the remainder paid into my company.

    My questions regarding this idea are:

    1. Is this legally possible?
    2. Would this be hard to achieve in regards to securing a 50% mortgage?

    Any input on my predicament is very much welcome. I was really hoping to contain this purchase within the company but since nobody appears to be offering BTL mortgages for a ltd company I am at a cross roads.

    Thanks in advance,

    Conor

    #2
    Hi moderators, is it possible to move this thread to the general part of the forums as it is pretty quiet in this part. I am a bit desperate for advice on this. Thanks in advance.

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      #3
      Moved to Business/Contracts.
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        #4
        You don't want to as it would be a total mess.

        What you need to do is to work out how to get that £60k out of the company and into your hands and then use it as the deposit on the property.

        Whether that means taking the tax hit now or later depends on the size of the loan you get. But personally I would be looking at a 90k mortgage taking £30k or so out now and the rest next year.

        I have a simple rule with business, keep things simple as the best laid plans will always have a flaw you can't see.
        merely at clientco for the entertainment

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          #5
          Originally posted by cojak View Post
          Moved to Business/Contracts.
          Thank you Cojak

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            #6
            Originally posted by eek View Post
            You don't want to as it would be a total mess.

            What you need to do is to work out how to get that £60k out of the company and into your hands and then use it as the deposit on the property.

            Whether that means taking the tax hit now or later depends on the size of the loan you get. But personally I would be looking at a 90k mortgage taking £30k or so out now and the rest next year.

            I have a simple rule with business, keep things simple as the best laid plans will always have a flaw you can't see.
            Thanks eek, Its a shame i cannot get a proper BTL mortgage within my company. In what ways do you think it could be messy? I only came to the idea after noticing that housing associations are offering properties 50%, 75% shares in properties. In their model, some of the property is owned by the housing association and the rest by an individual. Im not sure how my model would differ.
            Last edited by Conor; 3 December 2011, 13:54.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Conor View Post
              Thanks eek, Its a shame i cannot get a proper BTL mortgage within my company. In what ways do you think it could be messy? I only came to the idea after noticing that housing associations are offering properties 50%, 75% shares in properties. In their model, some of the property is owned by the housing association and the rest by an individual. Im not sure how my model would differ.
              Housing Associations are designed to owned houses and their tax system supports them.

              It does not support limited companies own houses its a lot more beneficial to own them as an individual.
              merely at clientco for the entertainment

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                #8
                Originally posted by eek View Post
                Housing Associations are designed to owned houses and their tax system supports them.

                It does not support limited companies own houses its a lot more beneficial to own them as an individual.
                Thank you, ill have a bit of a rethink i guess.

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                  #9
                  In almost all cases(unless you are setting up an investment company) you would be better to take a BTL out in your own personal name.

                  So how to get your 60k out?

                  Well numerous ways, but you're going to have to pay some Corp tax on your company profits regardless. Make sure you use up to your div plus salary allowance. Remember you can also lend the money to yourself as a directors loan!

                  Now top up the amount you want with a BTL mortgage or dependent on the property use some low interest methods. For example a Virgin credit card can be used to take out a 12 month loan at just 4% interest and/or a zopa loan for £15k these can be less than a BTL mortgage rate. This way you can up your LTV if needs be. Remember all of the interest you incur is offset against your BTL earnings.

                  I've just used all of these exact methods to build up the funds to buy a btl property outright without having to jump hurdles with the bank on a btl. I've saved on up front arrangement fees and the interest is roughly the same. Some loans are shortterm but any contractor on a good run could save £20k per year to pay off the capital, and in my case I have transferred the income to buy partner to save tax.

                  Do it all personally IMO.
                  What happens in General, stays in General.
                  You know what they say about assumptions!

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                    #10
                    I wouldn't mix the ownership up, I agree that it sounds messy and I cannot see a reason for doing it.

                    I cannot see a problem with owning the property 100% through your company or 100% in your name, but not a mixture.
                    "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." Cicero

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