One job by two agencies

[northernladuk]

Sorry NLUK. Didn't fully read your post.

However, in my experience, you are right.

Back to you sir. You made the point better, I went around the houses. They didn't get mine anyway as two posts after suggested playing the agents off v each other. The point is yours.

[TestMangler]

Back to you sir. You made the point better, I went around the houses. They didn't get mine anyway as two posts after suggested playing the agents off v each other. The point is yours.

No No Sir, I insist, the point is yours !

[skipjack]

Please remember that if an agency tells you that your CV has been sent over, doesn't necessarily mean true.
I always believe that if an agent seeks consent for representation from 10 candidates. Then s/he only sends the best 3 from the 10. If an interview request is made from the 3, the application progresses and may result in an offer for the lucky one from the 3. ROLE FILLED without your CV been looked into by the client.

However, if the client wants more CVs to look, the agent then sends a further list of 3 candidates to the client from his/her list of 10.
Just image if you are at the 7th position in the list of 10? You will happily assume that the client has your CV but in reality, you have not yet gone past the agent's boundaries.

Remember to always ask for confirmation that you CV has indeed been sent over. In most cases, you will surprised to not get any reply which should make you believe that your CV has still not been forward to the client and you could happily have talks with other agents for the same role and the client.

Cheers

[ddaft]

I think a lot depends on the industry/location/market. In finance in London the PSL will often comprise of 10+ agencies up to all sorts of games such as candidate blocking so you have to stick up for yourself to avoid being caught in the crossfire. In markets where there is less agency competition and smaller PSLs then it may be wise to stay on the right side of the agents though. If you can get some kind of evidence of being put forward then great.

I have done hiring for a few banks back in my dark permie days and generally HR would only allow a cv forward to me for a particular role from one agency and just reject any further attempts from other agencies. On the odd occasion that 2 agencies did sneak through with the same candidate I wouldnt bin them if I liked the look of the cv. We would go to the agency that submitted first for the interview. If another agency wanted to dispute it they would argue between themselves if any offer was made but at the end of the day if the client wants to hire the candidate it will happen.

[northernladuk]

I think a lot depends on the industry/location/market. In finance in London the PSL will often comprise of 10+ agencies up to all sorts of games such as candidate blocking so you have to stick up for yourself to avoid being caught in the crossfire. In markets where there is less agency competition and smaller PSLs then it may be wise to stay on the right side of the agents though. If you can get some kind of evidence of being put forward then great.

I have done hiring for a few banks back in my dark permie days and generally HR would only allow a cv forward to me for a particular role from one agency and just reject any further attempts from other agencies. On the odd occasion that 2 agencies did sneak through with the same candidate I wouldnt bin them if I liked the look of the cv. We would go to the agency that submitted first for the interview. If another agency wanted to dispute it they would argue between themselves if any offer was made but at the end of the day if the client wants to hire the candidate it will happen.

Hmmm. nice gray feedback ddaft

Thread: One job by two agencies
not realistic

It most certainly realistic...

A) It happened to me.
B) Has happened to other people in this forum in the past.

It is realistic ok!

If the client wants to hire the candidate and the agents are ready to rip each others throats out he will think twice.

[quackhandle]

I applied for a finance role in North West and a banking client in Cheshire. Despite asking the agents they wouldn't divulge anymore.

Barclays @ Knutsford? Very expensive canteen, no parking and no desks - you were better off not getting the gig.

qh

[Wanderer]

Please remember that if an agency tells you that your CV has been sent over, doesn't necessarily mean true.

Noooo! Surely they wouldn't lie to us would they?

[blacjac]

I had exactly this happen to me a couple of years ago.

Agent A called me said they had a juicy role with all the details so I said go for it.
Next day Agent B advertised the same role.


Week later, Agent A had come back with nada, budget cancelled - Agent B still advertising so I gave them a call.

Told them I am interested in the role but think I *may* have already been submitted by another agency.

Agent B called the client, who confirmed I hadn't been submitted so I went with them (all conversations now by email obviously ). Unfortunately they had already interviewed a few and made a choice so I missed out.

However 6 months later when they wanted someone else, Agent B called me direct, interview the next day, gig offered the day after.


I don't think there is any harm in speaking to Agent B as long as you tell them you *may* have been submitted already by another agent, then let them make the choice as to weather or not they want to pursue it.
That way, you have more of a chance than doing nothing, but if you do end up getting submitted twice, it's not your fault and you have the email trail to prove it.

[northernladuk]

Barclays @ Knutsford? Very expensive canteen, no parking and no desks - you were better off not getting the gig.

qh

Funny you should say that. I did a gig there and the canteen was great (I can cope with expensive), loads of parking as everyone was just dumping it on the grass and I had a great desk by a window overlooking the stream at the back of block 10 (was that the name?). Over summer wandering around the grounds looking at the wildlife and the birds. Bloody great gig.

[The Agents View]

Agent B called the client, who confirmed I hadn't been submitted so I went with them (all conversations now by email obviously ). Unfortunately they had already interviewed a few and made a choice so I missed out.

This is what the agent should be offering to do, when they agree that you're right for the job. A quick call to the client opening with "you know what these agents are like", and going on to check out whether the client has the CV, should be fairly standard - saves them looking tulip, and saves you getting binned.

I'm not saying that's what happens - but it should be really.....