Got my first contract / Elan IT

**malvolio** · 2 September 2011, 10:49

Originally posted by TraceRacing View Post

I've managed to land my first contract so exit from permieland on it's way. Clientco is prepared to wait the month's notice period although I'm hoping to negiotiate a quicker exit by trading accrued leave etc.

The agency who got the gig is Elan, and I'm in the process of reviewing their standard contract. Has anyone had any experience with them regarding any changes that may be required, any "tricks" to watch out for etc?

I'm also in the process of setting up a meeting with SJD to see what their service entails and to assit in company / VAT registration etc. Seems by the comments on various threads they are good at their job, but if anyone has recomendations for an alterative I'd be happy to hear them.

Ermmm... How have you got a contract without a company to have a contract with?

ANyway, Hays contracts are OK, mostly, but you won't get anywhere trying to negotiate with them . Get Bauer and Cotteril to do it.

**TraceRacing** · 2 September 2011, 10:52

Are Hays / Elan one and the same?

**northernladuk** · 2 September 2011, 10:56

Originally posted by malvolio View Post

Ermmm... How have you got a contract without a company to have a contract with?

ANyway, Hays contracts are OK, mostly, but you won't get anywhere trying to negotiate with them . Get Bauer and Cotteril to do it.

Ooops You mean Elans contracts are ok and just put Hay's by mistake or Hays are ok and you don't know about Elan??

**malvolio** · 2 September 2011, 11:17

Originally posted by northernladuk View Post

Ooops You mean Elans contracts are ok and just put Hay's by mistake or Hays are ok and you don't know about Elan??

D'Oh....

I meant Elan. Was just reading about the Hays up cock at RBS, and confused the two. And I am very old....

Although the same comment applies IMHO; Elan are OK but are unlilkely to negotiate if there is anything wrong. Use the experts.

**Project Monkey** · 2 September 2011, 12:51

[QUOTE=malvolio;1386404]Ermmm... How have you got a contract without a company to have a contract with?

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I think you'll find he's received and accepted (subject to contract) an offer of a contract role and now he needs to get his Ltd Co set up before he can sign the contract. Nothing unusual in that.

**Mr.Whippy** · 2 September 2011, 12:55

Originally posted by malvolio View Post

Elan are OK but are unlilkely to negotiate if there is anything wrong. Use the experts.

WHS, I've worked through Elan in the past. You've practically zero chance of getting anything in the contract changed. However from the contracts of theirs I've had reviewed they are considered IR35 friendly (usually working practices disclaimer applies).

**Mr.Whippy** · 2 September 2011, 13:02

Originally posted by Project Monkey View Post

I think you'll find he's received and accepted (subject to contract) an offer of a contract role and now he needs to get his Ltd Co set up before he can sign the contract. Nothing unusual in that.

Indeed, thats what happened when I first started contracting. Got contract offer then setup Ltdco and had a standard contract template sent through so I could review it and get it reviewed whilst the Ltdco & bank account was being done.

**northernladuk** · 2 September 2011, 13:47

But as a reminded to the OP. The contract means nothing in an investigation, it is the working practices that rule. You are not a permie anymore so approach your work with IR35 in mind else you could get in to old habits and fall inside... e.g. You do not take expenses from the client as you did with your old employer. You pay for them and invoice them back. Using their expenses will put you inside IR35 (or a flag anyway) regardless of how tight you contract may be.

**TraceRacing** · 2 September 2011, 14:53

Thanks for those who identified my position correctly. I have an offer and I have the standard terms, but before I can sign it I need to setup a Ltd, appoint an accountant, sort out insurance, open a bank account etc...

I've actually worked for this Clientco as a permie in the past, and they are prepared to wait for me to work my notice period, so it's all good. They are local and although the rate isn't as high as I'd like / am worth, it does get me back into contracting.

Got my first contract / Elan IT