Long term temps entitled to redundancy?

[lukemg]

Hope this is a wind-up, this 'kin behaviour is the reason big companies have 51 week/11 month rules because some nobbers tried to claim employment rights after over-staying their welcome for x years.
Ya 'kin IDIOTS are making it a lot harder for the rest of us !

[SueEllen]

Hope this is a wind-up, this 'kin behaviour is the reason big companies have 51 week/11 month rules because some nobbers tried to claim employment rights after over-staying their welcome for x years.
Ya 'kin IDIOTS are making it a lot harder for the rest of us !

Every now and again we get questions from people like this - people who don't understand that they aren't a temp.

Some how they think they are entitled to employment rights as well as the risk money from being in a legal set up where they don't have them.

[psychocandy]

The place I'm at now is making a concerted effort to distance itself from contractors. When I started, I brought along my own laptop and everything else ready to work without any need to ask the client to provide anything, another guy starting at the same time kicked up all sorts of fuss about not getting a PC or laptop and even got sniffy when they told him that company mobiles were for permies only.

The agency as well made a huge and painful effort to investigate whether I was truly "in business on my own account" to ensure I wouldn't be caught under either the MSC regulations or under the forthcoming AWR stuff. They truly need to streamline that though as they set a very high bar that could stop a lot of run-of-the-mill contractors from taking up a role.

No way would I accept a company mobile. Thats asking for trouble. If they really want they can phone me on my ltd company provided mobile.

Unfortunately, due to security aspects etc, its sometimes necessary to use a companies own PCs etc simply because they dont let you use a non-company pc.

[northernladuk]

Hope this is a wind-up, this 'kin behaviour is the reason big companies have 51 week/11 month rules because some nobbers tried to claim employment rights after over-staying their welcome for x years.
Ya 'kin IDIOTS are making it a lot harder for the rest of us !

Unfortunately this is very true.

There has been the guy from Lockheed Martin swapped for someone on a cheaper rate trying to sue for unfair dismissal - lost

Contractor chases 'unfair dismissal' claim

And the guy from HP who got binned for causing a fuss who also tried to sue for unfair dismissal

IR35: Sacked Contractor Sues HP for Unfair Dismissal

but I like this bit which is the bit these people completely forget..

Winning Might be Bad

If he wins his case, that means that contractors will be looked upon as disguised employees, even if they have a substitution clause in their contract, if a client just states that he is not going to use it.

It’s a bit like in those countries where a marriage contract can be annulled just by the husband saying, “I divorce thee” three times.

Quit When Ahead

The Employment Tribunal has already stated that they believed him to be a small businessman because of his substitution clause, whether there was going to be good or bad faith on HP’s part. It might have been better to stop there. Sometimes people don’t know when they’ve won.

John’s battle is with HP and not even the Inland Revenue who are watching from the sidelines with interest.

[jmo21]

Unfortunately this is very true.

There has been the guy from Lockheed Martin swapped for someone on a cheaper rate trying to sue for unfair dismissal - lost

Contractor chases 'unfair dismissal' claim

And the guy from HP who got binned for causing a fuss who also tried to sue for unfair dismissal

IR35: Sacked Contractor Sues HP for Unfair Dismissal

but I like this bit which is the bit these people completely forget..

Just had a browse of the useless forums over there and found our old buddy Harry Lee posting

[northernladuk]

Just had a browse of the useless forums over there and found our old buddy Harry Lee posting

Aww boooo I can't log in. Post your details so we can log in

You gonna out him on there as well? LOL

Has his english improved at all? I doubt his advice has but we can only hope.