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Ex army, with theft charge and seeking security clearance.
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Originally posted by centurian View PostThe thing is - there's no real need for MI5 to maintain a database of everyone - the private sector beat them to it years ago - there are already so many databases out there with public information anyway.Behold the warranty -- the bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away.Comment
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I agree that it should have been declared, it would be naive to think that a security clearance check won't find out about the incident and it will make them wonder if you are hiding other things.Free advice and opinions - refunds are available if you are not 100% satisfied.Comment
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After reading the form more carefully. i dnt actually think it was for Security clearance
It reads at the top , BPSS.
Surely if it was a security clearance, it wont say something along those lines? ( Security clearance )Comment
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Originally posted by Goulder View PostAfter reading the form more carefully. i dnt actually think it was for Security clearance
It reads at the top , BPSS.
Surely if it was a security clearance, it wont say something along those lines? ( Security clearance )
Companies may have their own forms which may be called "security clearance", but it's just their own context. For these roles, you do not need to declare spent convictions, unless the role is specifically excluded from the Act.Comment
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All it says at top was (BPSS) , and after reading it, it says, i dont have to declare spent convictions under the rehab act.
Iv sent it all off again to the agency declareing the theft charge in 2007, and how i got 60 days detention and soldier on. explaining, it was all a mistake and would they re-send.
Further ref: read forms more carefully from start to finish!Comment
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Word to the wise. If you do go for an SC job, and the question comes up at interview, don't answer as you did here - "Well, I was justified", the correct response will be... "I did something stupid in getting the money back myself, instead of going through the proper channels".Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!Comment
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Originally posted by Goulder View PostAll it says at top was (BPSS) , and after reading it, it says, i dont have to declare spent convictions under the rehab act.
Iv sent it all off again to the agency declareing the theft charge in 2007, and how i got 60 days detention and soldier on. explaining, it was all a mistake and would they re-send.
Further ref: read forms more carefully from start to finish!
You must also give details of 'spent' convictions. If someone is convicted of a criminal offence and receives a prison sentence of less than 2½ years, the conviction is usually considered to be 'spent' once they have served their sentence and completed a rehabilitation period (although this depends on the offence which they have committed). The rehabilitation period is a set period of time during which they must not be convicted of another offence. A spent conviction does not usually need to be revealed. However, the law makes an exception in the case of people who are undergoing national security vetting. When you complete your security questionnaire, you must therefore declare all convictions that you may have, including any that are spent. If you do not provide relevant information, we will take this into account when assessing your suitability for security clearance. Remember to sign and date the form at the foot of Page 38.
Ignore the usual tight arses on the thread as well, you made a mistake and have done the time for it, put it behind you and get on with your life. NAT's and Sockpuppet's advice is valid. If going for higher levels of clearance they're looking for integrity, so just be honest. Unlike the crap you read on here, you do not need to be squeaky clean to be SC or even DV."I hope Celtic realise that, if their team is good enough, they will win. If they're not good enough, they'll not win - and they can't look at anybody else, whether it is referees or any other influence." - Walter Smith
On them! On them! They fail!Comment
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Originally posted by Goulder View PostAll it says at top was (BPSS) , and after reading it, it says, i dont have to declare spent convictions under the rehab act.
Iv sent it all off again to the agency declareing the theft charge in 2007, and how i got 60 days detention and soldier on. explaining, it was all a mistake and would they re-send.
Further ref: read forms more carefully from start to finish!
The charge, doesnt get wiped from your record until after five years. If you were sentenced in 2007, it hasnt been five years.
So you must declare it on ALL job forms, even normal non secuirty ones, regardless of jobs applied for.Comment
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Originally posted by wim121 View PostGood, because under the rehab act, you still have to declare it.
The charge, doesnt get wiped from your record until after five years. If you were sentenced in 2007, it hasnt been five years.
So you must declare it on ALL job forms, even normal non secuirty ones, regardless of jobs applied for.
Any sentence of detention in respect of a conviction in service disciplinary proceedings - Five years
Five years from date of conviction until it's spent."I hope Celtic realise that, if their team is good enough, they will win. If they're not good enough, they'll not win - and they can't look at anybody else, whether it is referees or any other influence." - Walter Smith
On them! On them! They fail!Comment
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