If your role was being offshored

[ChimpMaster]

would you offer to work off client site, say at home, for a lower rate? And what rate - if your daily rate is say £500, would you take £150/£200/£250 to work at home each day?

I know it's a wide angled question but I'm just trying to work out :
(a) if it's financially worthwhile .... and
(b) whether the client would actually go for this, or still prefer to offshore to their main centre in India

Any ideas or opinions would be welcome, bearing in mind that this post is not in General!

[PropertyCrashUK]

Go and get a van driver job in Sainsburys, wait for the inevitable train wreck of outsourcing to occur.

I can offer you no practical advice. If they have decided to off-shore the work then it is probably a done deal.

[Ignis Fatuus]

would you offer to work off client site, say at home, for a lower rate? And what rate - if your daily rate is say £500, would you take £150/£200/£250 to work at home each day?

I know it's a wide angled question but I'm just trying to work out :
(a) if it's financially worthwhile .... and
(b) whether the client would actually go for this, or still prefer to offshore to their main centre in India

Any ideas or opinions would be welcome, bearing in mind that this post is not in General!

1. The person who actually made the decision has no interest in talking to you.
2. Your brown paper bag is not as big as the one the off-whorers offered.

Your only hope is the government having British workers' interests at heart.

[Support Monkey]

I would brown up, change my name to bob shawaddywady and start looking for rental properties in bangalore

[amcdonald]

I would brown up, change my name to bob shawaddywady and start looking for rental properties in bangalore

Dik tulips would be a suitably Indian name that wouldn't arouse suspicion

[2BIT]

would you offer to work off client site, say at home, for a lower rate? And what rate - if your daily rate is say £500, would you take £150/£200/£250 to work at home each day?

I know it's a wide angled question but I'm just trying to work out :
(a) if it's financially worthwhile .... and
(b) whether the client would actually go for this, or still prefer to offshore to their main centre in India

Any ideas or opinions would be welcome, bearing in mind that this post is not in General!

not financially worthwhile as you could earn lots more not working from home, client wont care unless you can undercut the off-shorers and even then are unlikely to go for it

go get another contract and leave the current one as soon as poss - you never know the off-shorers may not be up to scratch and you may get an offer for a contract to sort out the problems- if by that time they have got rid of the office space dedicated to your team you could work from home at your normal rate

guess what I'm trying to say is don't try and do the client any favours - if they need you back it will on your terms if they don't then no probs you would have eventually lost the contract anyway

[ChimpMaster]

not financially worthwhile as you could earn lots more not working from home, client wont care unless you can undercut the off-shorers and even then are unlikely to go for it

go get another contract and leave the current one as soon as poss - you never know the off-shorers may not be up to scratch and you may get an offer for a contract to sort out the problems- if by that time they have got rid of the office space dedicated to your team you could work from home at your normal rate

guess what I'm trying to say is don't try and do the client any favours - if they need you back it will on your terms if they don't then no probs you would have eventually lost the contract anyway

This is kind of what I'm thinking too, but I want to be as professional as possible. It's true that clients have no responsibility towards us, and we shouldn't expect it anyway. I just know that they are making the wrong decision because they don't know how much work I cover, and professionally I feel obliged to do something about that.

[pmeswani]

This is kind of what I'm thinking too, but I want to be as professional as possible. It's true that clients have no responsibility towards us, and we shouldn't expect it anyway. I just know that they are making the wrong decision because they don't know how much work I cover, and professionally I feel obliged to do something about that.

Personally, I would just let nature take its own course. If the client realises they screwed up by off-shoring it to wherever it is, they will be quick on the phone to ask you back.

Don't rock the boat by telling them that they are making a mistake. You telling them that they are making the wrong decision is effectively telling them that they shouldn't take you back, no matter how right you are.

[Brussels Slumdog]

On site or off site

would you offer to work off client site, say at home, for a lower rate? And what rate - if your daily rate is say £500, would you take £150/£200/£250 to work at home each day?

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My average daily rate of £500 is based on £350 + £150 travel expenses
The reason the client is prepared to pay £500 is due to the fact he requires me to be on site. If the client did not require my presence then he would simply hire the cheapest and as I don't pay Indian social security at 0% then I have no chance of competing with offshore rates. I know some companies who are switching to the Philippines as the Indians are becoming to expensive

[2BIT]

This is kind of what I'm thinking too, but I want to be as professional as possible. It's true that clients have no responsibility towards us, and we shouldn't expect it anyway. I just know that they are making the wrong decision because they don't know how much work I cover, and professionally I feel obliged to do something about that.

if it was me I would tell them that to assist in a smooth transition you are going to document your roles and responsibilities and that you feel they should really use that doc to ensure coverage with the new staff - then make sure your documentation is as comprehensive as possible and your dev environment/work in progress is in good shape

if the new peeps are good they'll be able to take over pretty easily (even if they need two or more peeps to cover it all) and the client gets what they want - your contract would have ended anyway and they won't need you back so end of.

if they aren't any good then at least you know it wasn't the handover that was the problem, the client may notice the difference in the quality of your work and if it all comes to a head (maybe over a couple of years) may get you back in - either way you should be out there earning safe in the knowledge that you left the role in good shape

unless I really liked the client I would probably just get my house in order and move on, they can sort out the new peeps, the r&r and the coverage