HELP! Urgently need template direct to client contract template

[Old Greg]

Hi All

After over 5 months on the bench, I have a shiny contract.

Ticks all right boxes: 3 days / week but flexible so I can take time off and then work extra days other weeks; based from home so can expense any travel; nice people I've worked with before; interesting work; direct with client.

So, I need a solid template contract to send to them 1st thing Monday a.m. First port of call was PCG and I've let my membership lapse so have rejoined, but I can't get the website to acknowledge my new membership and therefore cannot access the templates. Can anyone help with a template?

Thanks

OG

[Gordon Ice]

Seek and ye shall receive

Err.. there's help on the PCG website if you look.

Either try the Password reset @ Forgot PCG password | PCG or give them a call on 020 8897 9970.

Now that wasn't hard now was it?

[Old Greg]

Err.. there's help on the PCG website if you look.

Either try the Password reset @ Forgot PCG password | PCG or give them a call on 020 8897 9970.

Now that wasn't hard now was it?

Thanks, but a bit harder than that. It keeps telling me my membership sign up was not completed and then taking me to a blank page. Phone no. not answered on weekend (which is fair enough).

[thunderlizard]

PCG are prompt and helpful in my experience. If you give them a call on Monday morning I'm sure they'll sort you out. Also, (unless I'm making this up), their sample contracts used to be very long indeed and not brilliantly written, but their current batch are much more concise and understandable. Just enjoy your weekend will you? Nothing's that urgent!

[Old Greg]

PCG are prompt and helpful in my experience. If you give them a call on Monday morning I'm sure they'll sort you out. Also, (unless I'm making this up), their sample contracts used to be very long indeed and not brilliantly written, but their current batch are much more concise and understandable. Just enjoy your weekend will you? Nothing's that urgent!

Ta. Will apply for permission to enjoy weekend from Mrs OG, who is 7 months pregnant and has strong moral views on work and idleness (especially in me).

[v8gaz]

Call the PCG office on Monday and ask for Mandie - she'll sort you out in a jiffy.

[RichardCranium]

After over 5 months on the bench, I have a shiny contract.

I am impressed by your patience with the replies you have received. I should have thought this was appropriate by now:

I need a template contract to send to them 1st thing Monday a.m.

There must be someone with an electronic copy of an IR35-proof contract you can have.

[d000hg]

Well I guess one of us could send a copy of the PCG template, since I think he'd be breaching it to use it as a non-member.

If you get desperate, I'm a member, but would prefer you try PCG directly on Monday morning first.

[Old Greg]

I am impressed by your patience with the replies you have received. I should have thought this was appropriate by now:

There must be someone with an electronic copy of an IR35-proof contract you can have.

Cheers - made me smile. I made promises to have it done over the weekend, and would like to be able to honour that. Fortunately, behind the scenes on the PM system, I've had a kind offer of help so I should be sorted.

It has made me think once again about Right of Substitution. I understand its relevance to IR35, but does anyone believe in it? I'm tempted to remove it and rely on MOO and Direction and Control. The reality is they are paying my company to supply me, who they know, who has experience in service change in the NHS and a great deal of knowledge about a very very niche area of medical practice. I wouldn't sign an unfettered RoS clause if I were the client. Any thoughts?

[malvolio]

Cheers - made me smile. I made promises to have it done over the weekend, and would like to be able to honour that. Fortunately, behind the scenes on the PM system, I've had a kind offer of help so I should be sorted.

It has made me think once again about Right of Substitution. I understand its relevance to IR35, but does anyone believe in it? I'm tempted to remove it and rely on MOO and Direction and Control. The reality is they are paying my company to supply me, who they know, who has experience in service change in the NHS and a great deal of knowledge about a very very niche area of medical practice. I wouldn't sign an unfettered RoS clause if I were the client. Any thoughts?

Bad idea, unless you can absolutely demonstrate solid D&C and MOO. The whole point is to demonstrate a lack of personal service, which is what RoS implies. Your client may well want your niche skills, but he doesn't need you personally.

That said he will need an escape option. If you allow an RoS which the client cannot unreasonably refuse, the only argument is about what is reasonable at any point. If you are capable of doing that job at that time and your proposed subbie isn't to the client's satisfaction, the the RoS clause is not a sham, the refusal is purely a business decision. Which is why the PCG templates use that formula.