• Visitors can check out the Forum FAQ by clicking this link. You have to register before you can post: click the REGISTER link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. View our Forum Privacy Policy.
  • Want to receive the latest contracting news and advice straight to your inbox? Sign up to the ContractorUK newsletter here. Every sign up will also be entered into a draw to WIN £100 Amazon vouchers!

Finished Contract; ongoing consultancy rate

Collapse
X
  •  
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    Finished Contract; ongoing consultancy rate

    Hi all,

    I'm due to finish a 6 month contract at the end of this week as although the client would like to keep me they can't afford to. However, they would like the potential to call me back for the odd day(s) consultancy here and there.

    - I’ve been on £300 a day on this contract, but my new role is £350 (which is more like the market rate on a 6 month contract for my skillset).
    - I need to set a day rate but aren’t sure what I should look to charge (bearing in mind the above and that it’s got to be attractive for me).
    - The agent will no longer be involved, so their cut (not sure what it was) will disappear.

    Please could I have your opinions on what you would charge in similar circumstances based on the above? I don’t want to appear greedy, nor lose out on what I should reasonably expect for my services.

    TIA

    #2
    Originally posted by Ian Freely View Post
    Hi all,

    I'm due to finish a 6 month contract at the end of this week as although the client would like to keep me they can't afford to. However, they would like the potential to call me back for the odd day(s) consultancy here and there.

    - I’ve been on £300 a day on this contract, but my new role is £350 (which is more like the market rate on a 6 month contract for my skillset).
    - I need to set a day rate but aren’t sure what I should look to charge (bearing in mind the above and that it’s got to be attractive for me).
    - The agent will no longer be involved, so their cut (not sure what it was) will disappear.

    Please could I have your opinions on what you would charge in similar circumstances based on the above? I don’t want to appear greedy, nor lose out on what I should reasonably expect for my services.

    TIA
    It's business - it all depends on the market.

    If you can only find 1 contract and the client is paying £250/day, you have a choice - take the £250/day or sit on the bench.

    On the other hand, if there are plenty of contracts about, you have more of a choice and can afford to not give the £250/day contracts a 2nd glance, favouring the £350/day ones.
    Contracting: more of the money, less of the sh1t

    Comment


      #3
      Does your new client have any concerns you might go AWOL randomly to work for your other client?
      If the consultancy would clash with your new contract it has to pay more or what's the point?
      Originally posted by MaryPoppins
      I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
      Originally posted by vetran
      Urine is quite nourishing

      Comment


        #4
        Originally posted by d000hg View Post
        Does your new client have any concerns you might go AWOL randomly to work for your other client?
        If the consultancy would clash with your new contract it has to pay more or what's the point?
        Given all that, working at more than one client in a week has to be good news from a IR35 perspective I would have thought. Even though each contract is assessed on it's own merits, it has to be good news.
        Public Service Posting by the BBC - Bloggs Bulls**t Corp.
        Officially CUK certified - Thick as f**k.

        Comment


          #5
          Originally posted by d000hg View Post
          Does your new client have any concerns you might go AWOL randomly to work for your other client?
          If the consultancy would clash with your new contract it has to pay more or what's the point?
          Taking a days 'Leave' to do consultancy shouldn't be a problem as far as the new client is concerned.

          I expect it should pay more than the £350 I'm on with my new client, what I'm not sure of is how much more would be reasonable for me to charge? Bearing in mind that this would be a day here and there as far as the original client is concerned, and effectively saves them from employing me fulltime for 3-6 months at £350 a day (+whatever agency charges) then surely as length of contract goes down, rate goes up(?).

          Thanks all for your help.

          Comment


            #6
            I've not had to do this as a contractor, but when I was a permy consultant I saw that my short-term consultancy rate to the customer was quoted at roughly 25% more than the longer term rate. I would be inclined to do the same if I found myself in your situation.

            As others have said, it may depend on the market for your skills and whether you have something the client can't get elsewhere, but in general I think the customer will appreciate having to pay a little more for impromptu consultancy. It needs to reflect the added inconvenience (dont say this to client) and flexibility you're providing, whilst not being prohibitively expensive.

            Comment


              #7
              Originally posted by Ian Freely View Post
              Hi all,

              I'm due to finish a 6 month contract at the end of this week as although the client would like to keep me they can't afford to. However, they would like the potential to call me back for the odd day(s) consultancy here and there.

              - I’ve been on £300 a day on this contract, but my new role is £350 (which is more like the market rate on a 6 month contract for my skillset).
              - I need to set a day rate but aren’t sure what I should look to charge (bearing in mind the above and that it’s got to be attractive for me).
              - The agent will no longer be involved, so their cut (not sure what it was) will disappear.

              Please could I have your opinions on what you would charge in similar circumstances based on the above? I don’t want to appear greedy, nor lose out on what I should reasonably expect for my services.

              TIA
              You need a premium on that. I would recommend 400-450 per day.
              What happens in General, stays in General.
              You know what they say about assumptions!

              Comment


                #8
                Originally posted by CheeseSlice View Post
                I've not had to do this as a contractor, but when I was a permy consultant I saw that my short-term consultancy rate to the customer was quoted at roughly 25% more than the longer term rate. I would be inclined to do the same if I found myself in your situation.

                As others have said, it may depend on the market for your skills and whether you have something the client can't get elsewhere, but in general I think the customer will appreciate having to pay a little more for impromptu consultancy. It needs to reflect the added inconvenience (dont say this to client) and flexibility you're providing, whilst not being prohibitively expensive.
                I'd agree with 25% - good to keep your contacts happy for future work, just be careful new client doesn't get wind of it...they might be ok...but might not...

                Comment


                  #9
                  Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
                  You need a premium on that. I would recommend 400-450 per day.
                  WHS - it needs to be more than the £350 that you are currently on, enough so that you can be arsed to do the work.

                  Work out the opportunity cost - how much is it worth to potentially piss off your new client by sloping off to the old job?
                  Best Forum Advisor 2014
                  Work in the public sector? You can read my FAQ here
                  Click here to get 15% off your first year's IPSE membership

                  Comment


                    #10
                    Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
                    WHS - it needs to be more than the £350 that you are currently on, enough so that you can be arsed to do the work.

                    Work out the opportunity cost - how much is it worth to potentially piss off your new client by sloping off to the old job?
                    WFS

                    It has to be a premium for the reason FAq says, otherwise there is no point
                    What happens in General, stays in General.
                    You know what they say about assumptions!

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    X