No More Agencies IT Position Website

[Agencies Lie]

Everyone Desrves Better!

You seem to be missing the point. Yes there are contractor databases just as there are agency databases. Are these databases updated and reliable? Do they match client requirements to contractor skills and avavailability at any one specific time? Supposedly agencies perform this duty but regularly fail miserably. The planned website will act just as Jobserve and others do - matching live positions to available and skilled contractors or permies. Are you seriously suggesting that a job website cannot find the right candidate in today's market? Of course money would be returned if the position is not filled. You could post an advert in this forum but will you get the response needed? It is quite clear that IT agencies are undermining clients' confidence in IT - they charge huge rates and do not match ideal candidates to IT positions. Yes clients will approach agencies because there is no realistic alternative. This 'I'm alright, Jack' attitude is fine for you - What about other contractors, clients and the whole industry?

[planetit]

Re: Everyone Desrves Better!

Then clearly I am missing the point. Sounds like what you’re talking about is an agency, but run on an ethical and co-operative basis (non profit?) with fees up front from the clients. Will you pay contractors as agencies currently do? Where will you get the money for this? (I guess this is one of the things clients like about agencies. Just one bill to pay, rather than one from each contractor)

I wasn’t trying to say, “I’m alright Jack”, just wondering why clients use agencies when they are offered a cheaper alternative.

Anyway, I genuinely wish you the best of luck. Let us know how you get on.

[NodashAgency]

Ahem

Personally I think you may either be a troll or just incredibly niave.

[Agencies Lie]

To Nodash

Nodash you had your say yesterday, you're bitter because you couldn't exploit the contractor - £100 for contacts collected on the Internet? Please! Then expect £1,500 for a nothing domain name...Now you start throwing insults. That's ok - you can now crawl back under your rock. Go find some tasty grubs!

[NodashAgency]

Questions

How do you intend to adress the following:
Clients not getting inudated by applicants who are not suitable
Clients being inundated by agencies cold calling them as soon as they see the ad.
Indian s/w houses inundating clients.
How do you intenf to makret your idea to companies?
Do you have a salesforce?
What would you charging structure be?
Try and answer these questions and maybe I will think that you are serious.
PS £1500 wasn't for the domain name it was for a copy of the Directory

[NodashAgency]

Other databases

"Yes, I have seen these websites - to be honest they are poorly designed, rarely updated and virtually unknown. The search engine on contractdb.com is a disaster! See any good jobs on there of late? What's wrong with a user friendly website? Front page - type in your skill, press enter,see jobs advertised and the times they were posted. Having a man in a gorilla suit on the front page doesn't do it for me. We are professionals - why not expect a professional service? "

At least these databases are designed, yours is still in your head, without any idea on how to develop it.

[Agencies Lie]

Answers to Questions

Clients names would not be advertised on the proposed website so no cold calling. The website would act as brokers between the client and candidate You say market the idea? - I don't envisage a 'sales force' however getting the word out and establishing the website as a credible option is the goal and achieving this can be explored. Pricing options would vary - I don't intend to offer an exact structure just yet, that's why I'm seeking others to participate in a cooperative style to eventually become profitable. There will be no quick riches! Providing a database with a facility to search on key skills is hardly rocket science! I have created many before just as user-friendly and effective as Jobserve. This isn't a new idea, it has been tried before and will be tried again. But I believe if the website and service is done well and with commitment - it can work. I know there are many contractors 'between contracts' out there, how about e-mailing me your ideas to add to mine and offer some time in getting this started. There are questions when starting every new venture, as long as the basis of the project is sound; answers follow. E-mail me at:
agencieslie@gladion.net

[Marko]

You are missing the main point....

Although I admire your conviction and desire to succeed in this venture you are missing the main point that people are trying to get through to you. No matter how good your database is, how fast, how many contractors are on there etc... you will have to sell/market it to clients. Obviously sales & marketing is an area you have no experience in at all and appear to not understand. Have you got a client contact list? Do the clients want a service like yours? Who will do the selling? How much budget have you got? Have you ever tried cold calling someone who is having a bad day/doesn't want your service/has been rung 50 times that day already by people offering a similar service for FREE or is just arrogant? Oh and by the way you will be marketing/selling in competition with Jobserve (estimated worth of £100 million) and agencies such as Computer People (part of £1billion turnover group). The very best of luck!

[NodashAgency]

Hello

Can I come out form under my rock now?

[DimPrawn]

What clients like about agencies

Please read this. You are not looking at the big picture.

Clients love agencies and are generally happy with them, as they:

1. Believe that putting an agency in between the contractor helps protect them from employment/tax liability laws.

2. Shield them from no-hoper contractors. They believe agencies filter out the dross. Compare with 100's of unsuitable candidates calling the client direct. The HR department would be up in arms.

3. Act as a single supplier. Once a month the agency invoices the client for mant contractors, maybe hundreds. Compare with having 100 contractors all invoicing the client on different dates for different anounts. The clients purchasing department would be up in arms.

4. Single contract. A single contract between the client and agency covers 100 contractors. Compare with 100 separate contracts. The clients legal department would be up in arms.


There are many other reasons.

To summarise for the hard of thinking.

Clients have the money. Clients like using agencies. Agencies are here to stay. Get over it.


What contractors like or don't like or think clients would like is irrelevant.

Convince me I am wrong.