5 years testing experience for 190 a day

[DodgyAgent]

Nicking your job as well now! Who'd have thought it?

I dont give a tulip about my job, nor do I give a tulip about yours. The point is that shipping in IT people is a grey area that can possibly be justified, however shipping in HR and recruitment people is clearly outside the bounds of any international company transfer.
If these people are shipping in recruiters and HR people when there are thousands of uneducated idiots in the UK perfectly capable of fulfilling these roles then there is clearly an abuse of the system.

[BolshieBastard]

Mmm. At the risk of getting flamed again. I would have thought this was quite a good a rate for testing.

I mean, and I do honestly mean, that testing isn't really on a par with the BA or Development part.

I mean, when you want to get competitive edge, fast results, Agile, Scrum call it what you want. Testing for me is pretty much at the end. A good developer & team should be able to test along the way and work with the client at the end. Ergo. It shouldn't really get paid as much.

Duck.

Hey you're entitled to your opinion. Even if it is wrong!

Anyway, there seems to be a bit of confusion between what a tester does and what a test analyst does.

Lots of cocky developers call anyone who tests a 'tester.' Strange that you find absolute shedloads of defects in these sooper dooper development god's work!

I dont give a tulip about my job, nor do I give a tulip about yours. The point is that shipping in IT people is a grey area that can possibly be justified, however shipping in HR and recruitment people is clearly outside the bounds of any international company transfer.
If these people are shipping in recruiters and HR people when there are thousands of uneducated idiots in the UK perfectly capable of fulfilling these roles then there is clearly an abuse of the system.

Er if you dont give a toss about your job, then why are you making an issue about 'recruitment people' being 'shipped in'?

[DodgyAgent]

Hey you're entitled to your opinion. Even if it is wrong!

Anyway, there seems to be a bit of confusion between what a tester does and what a test analyst does.

Lots of cocky developers call anyone who tests a 'tester.' Strange that you find absolute shedloads of defects in these sooper dooper development god's work!



Er if you dont give a toss about your job, then why are you making an issue about 'recruitment people' being 'shipped in'?

Well of course I care about my job, I am not sure that these people present much in the way of competition, but this is not my reason for highlighting this.
My issue as I said earlier is that intra company transfers of skilled IT people is a grey area as to whether it is necessary for outsourcers to bring people to the UK to "learn" about the systems they are taking over. My view is that this area of grey is being abused and used as a loophole to bring cheap labour to the UK to do work or components of work that are not appropriate to take offshore.. but it is difficult to determine.
In the case of HR or recruitment there is NO such grey area. If these companies need recruitment people here why do they need to bring them over from India? same goes for HR. If they are in need of HR resource here then surely it is inappropriate to bring HR people from India who are not versed in UK/EU practices and law.
it is not as if there is even any shortage of recruitment/HR people so there is no excuse for these people to be here.

[the_duderama]

I wish that dodgy agent the best of luck, but the goverment doesn't care, and i doubt the tories will.

What we should do is set up a company here that specialises in management consultancy, open an office in india. We could then import executives across using the ICT, then we could get our banks/telco's/whoever ran at 10% of the cost. The MP's might sit up and notice when they stop getting board positions.