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    #71
    Originally posted by digerido View Post
    I don't wish to offend you agent but 99.9% of recruitment 'consultants' are cowboys looking to make a sale at any cost! It's all about sales and nothing else. You will place the man that makes you the most money and not who is most suitable for the end client...

    I'm not bitter, I don't harbour any grudges and I've been fortunate to be in roles more often than not in 12'ish years of contracting, I'm just telling you how it is. You know this as well as I do.

    Well done for trying to glamorise your position but lets be fair that's all you have done isn't it? Trying to justify your self worth
    I for one am not justifying anything. And for you to have the gall to come on here and accuse agents of being ruthlessly greedy is quite something. Are you saying that contractors (who are generally better paid than agents) do not try and get the most intersting, most highly paid, most convenient contract that they can?

    Pot and Kettle
    Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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      #72
      Originally posted by digerido View Post
      I don't wish to offend you agent but 99.9% of recruitment 'consultants' are cowboys looking to make a sale at any cost! It's all about sales and nothing else. You will place the man that makes you the most money and not who is most suitable for the end client...

      I'm not bitter, I don't harbour any grudges and I've been fortunate to be in roles more often than not in 12'ish years of contracting, I'm just telling you how it is. You know this as well as I do.

      Well done for trying to glamorise your position but lets be fair that's all you have done isn't it? Trying to justify your self worth
      You feel the way you do - that's fair enough - but before you go quoting the above drivel as fact, perhaps consider one thing.

      What would the benefit be to the agent, to placing someone who wasn't suitable for the end client?? How much money do you think we'd make in the 2 weeks the contractor would be able to hang on for? Open your eyes - contractors are a disposable resource, if you place the wrong one, the notice of a week might make you £500 - of which you can expect to earn 0%, because your boss will be taking it away from you for being a numpty, and not servicing the client properly.

      Think about it will you?
      "Being a permy is like being married, when there's no more sex on the cards....and she's got fat."
      SlimRick

      Can't argue with that

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        #73
        Are you an agent that become emotional? Sorry I don't understand surely that can't be right. Classic.

        Thanks for making me think about it and I'm open to a discussion on the matter but I can tell you seem I am not worthy due to a low post count so I won't bother answering your questions.

        Don't take it so personally! I really do feel though the industry would survive without you as work could still be completed, guess who would do it? Yes contractors.

        If that is the case I guess you're the disposable resource.

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          #74
          Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
          How would you have got on then? You clearly do not understand sales do you?
          I would have got a job that didnt involve adding nothing and living off the work of others. Just like I did many moons ago when I worked in sales and realised it was a boring dead end. I was actually selling a real manufactured product though and not a parasitical middle man setup.

          But hey, this is Labour's Britain and the parasites are killing the host in so many ways not just in your one small area, so dont feel too bad.

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            #75
            Originally posted by escapeUK View Post
            I would have got a job that didnt involve adding nothing and living off the work of others. Just like I did many moons ago when I worked in sales and realised it was a boring dead end. I was actually selling a real manufactured product though and not a parasitical middle man setup.

            But hey, this is Labour's Britain and the parasites are killing the host in so many ways not just in your one small area, so dont feel too bad.
            In other words you are a failed salesman with a huge chip on his shoulder
            Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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              #76
              Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
              In other words you are a failed salesman with a huge chip on his shoulder
              If you say so, I hope I continue to fail at other such worthless things.

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                #77
                Originally posted by GWilliy View Post
                Maybe one day someone will start an organization like CORGI or The Guild of Master Craftsmen but for IT Contractors?

                I'd pay a couple of hundred per yr to register with em if they had .gov backing/approval/legal requirement (like Corgi)
                CORGI doesn't have government backing, they are a trust. They originally had a contract with the government to vet gas installers, but do not any more. CAPITA does that now (and has done for a couple of years).

                HTH

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                  #78
                  tehe OK Quals Vetted & registration legally required by Capita then. I'm not fussy.

                  I Still think it's a good idea, but then again i've only got 20 posts & am not worth listening to

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Stan.goodvibes View Post
                    Yeah maybe when the goings a bit tough like in the last couple of years, but of my recent experience in Sydney, I've had at least 2 agents tell me that roles are just falling onto their desk (one agent had 28 roles to fill) from clients at the moment without them having to do anything (once they have a PSA in place).

                    So for the role I got accepted for a couple of weeks ago the workload the agent put into it amounted to getting the advert on SEEK. I saw it, phoned and sent my CV, agent found ONE other candidate to send to interview, i got the job offer, but then the client bailed on the contract.

                    Agent got hourly rate wrong, location wrong, and then when contract fell over txt'd me to tell me, because he didn't have the balls to call me.

                    And my agent friend who got me my last role earned 200k last year.

                    Yours unconvinced of how much work you do,

                    Dave
                    I will take the lack of reply to this as a general acceptance that what I said is true

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Stan.goodvibes View Post
                      I will take the lack of reply to this as a general acceptance that what I said is true
                      I think you can probably take it that your view is that of an entrenched bigoted redneck, that no one can be bothered to explain to you why you are the idiot that you are.
                      Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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