Security clearance...and 'massaged' dates.

[Ruse]

+100

You are right: It seems this site at times is only populated by people with a cleaner record than Jesus.

To the OP: Ignore the people on here who say it's a problem. My 20 year contracting cv has more holes (gaps) in it than Swiss Cheese, yet I've filled ALL of them in; and some of those gaps are longer than 6 months. I've never had a problem yet.

If I left all the gaps on my cv I'd never find work. I had enough bitching and whining about a 4 week (!) gap on my cv 14 years ago that I made a decision to never, ever leave any gaps again. That is now my company policy.

Ps. Just been through a very, very rigorous vetting process for an Investment Bank. I had no problems whatsoever. Without those "white lies", I'd be still on the bench.

Nomadd

WHS.

What the fk is the matter with these sanctomonious whinging idiots ? He's not covering up a terrible criminal past or anything he's just trying to get himself off the bench and in to work and probably save money to the tax payer, what is so terrible about that, eh ?
My suspicion is they are all permies.

Personally I don't do it as I would feel uncomfortable about being found out, but I can't blame someone who has been out for 10 months for doing it.

[LouC]

Thanks to the last few posters.

I did find the reactions a bit odd. It's not as if they found out i'd been shagging their mum, which, of course, I am also guilty of.

[nomadd]

It's not as if they found out i'd been shagging their mum, which, of course, I am also guilty of.

Me too. Boy, their mums sure get around...

Nomadd

[worzelGummidge]

For the record, I moved the dates of the contract along 6 months. I did not 'add' 6 months on to the length of the contract. I fail to see how doing that has warranted so much anger. Clearly those who have responded in that way have some frustration issues. I suggest you get laid, or masterbate, pronto.

Actually, you have lied. I can understand why you did but you should understand that the point of security clearance is to check for those that are not trustworthy. Had this been a DV check and not SC then I suspect that you would not pass due to the mismatch in dates.

[MaryPoppins]

It's easy to be quick to judge until you've been out of work for ages, I guess.

I am not sure why we, as contractors, should have to justify and worry so much about gaps - isn't that the nature of the game? I decided to take a couple of months out (ended up being three) last year and didn't think it was an issue - maybe it is, I wouldn't know.

I have however had at least two roles which required ridiculously detailed reference checks. The worst was for CapG on a government contract, which is to be expected I guess. They needed to know my precise whereabouts for the last three years and checked it all.

If your interview wasn't for a public sector, then it really shouldn't be a problem. Hopefully you will get this and won't be forced into such desperate measures again, so good luck. I'm in the same boat myself, wondering whether having had a baby is what is putting clients off.

[RichardCranium]

One sanctimonious twat here.

It's easy to be quick to judge until you've been out of work for ages, I guess.

I've been out of work for ages, so I'll judge.

So, been for an interview today, went very well, good chance of me getting the job, etc, etc, BUT, at the end they said you just need to go through security clearance (just to check your address and so on).

They'll be looking for liars. People don't like employing liars.

I 'amended' my CV to move the end date of my last contract to July this year...

Bad, I know, but you do what you do...

Just because you are a liar, don't go assuming the rest of us lower ourselves to your standard.

Anyway - if I do manage to get the job and I have to go through the vetting malarky, what should I do? Lie also on the security form? Put the real dates on the forms?

Tough tulip, toe-rag. You lied and got yourself into this situation, don't come looking for sympathy. It's what you get for being a lying toe-rag. If you hadn't lied you wouldn't have this problem, would you?

No sarcy comments about cheats never prospering, please.

You won't get that from me. Experience has taught me it's the lying toe-rags like you that prosper at the expense of decent people. But that was what you intended when you lied, wasn't it? To beat the system by tulipting on those poor suckers who tell the truth.

Anyone who's been out of work as long as I have knows the things you have to do to get back in the game.

Bollocks. Some of you lie and some of us don't.

It's contractors like you that give us professional ones a bad name.

[SueEllen]

FFS

There is enough information around to show that lots of people lie on their CVs and have told more serious lies than dates.

Anyway even if you don't don't be surprised to find an agent has added or changed information on your CV when you are going for a role.

[nomadd]

One sanctimonious twat here.

I've been out of work for ages, so I'll judge.

They'll be looking for liars. People don't like employing liars.

Just because you are a liar, don't go assuming the rest of us lower ourselves to your standard.
Bollocks. Some of you lie and some of us don't.

It's contractors like you that give us professional ones a bad name.

Bollocks. Some of you lie and some of us don't.

It's contractors like you that give us professional ones a bad name.

Your latest post in the General section seems to say otherwise:

Originally Posted by RichardCranium View Post

Yet again I am tempted to produce a completely new CV.

Start with a blank document.

Put in those employers I am happy with. Drop those that are less than impressive.

Then just make up the dates. It appears nobody will ever know.

Does anyone ever ask for degree certificates outside academia or the banks? I may as well invent a degree too.

If I give the right ID documents, they won't be able to find out my DOB either. I wonder how may years I could take off my age?

Actually, given I'm a PM, I could just slap some techie stuff on there too like SAP and .NET and nobody will not really know I know bugger all about them.

It's tempting...




Nomadd

[Ruse]

One sanctimonious twat here.



I've been out of work for ages, so I'll judge.

They'll be looking for liars. People don't like employing liars.

Just because you are a liar, don't go assuming the rest of us lower ourselves to your standard.

Tough tulip, toe-rag. You lied and got yourself into this situation, don't come looking for sympathy. It's what you get for being a lying toe-rag. If you hadn't lied you wouldn't have this problem, would you?

You won't get that from me. Experience has taught me it's the lying toe-rags like you that prosper at the expense of decent people. But that was what you intended when you lied, wasn't it? To beat the system by tulipting on those poor suckers who tell the truth.

Bollocks. Some of you lie and some of us don't.

It's contractors like you that give us professional ones a bad name.

Aw come on, you don't really mean all that do you ? So you're saying you wouldn't be prepared to tell one little white lie if it meant you were to be offered a job tomorrow ?

[EddieNambulous]

To the OP: Ignore the people on here who say it's a problem. My 20 year contracting cv has more holes (gaps) in it than Swiss Cheese, yet I've filled ALL of them in; and some of those gaps are longer than 6 months. I've never had a problem yet.

Interesting. So no-one has ever questioned that you've been working for 20 years straight without a break?

I think lying on your CV is a personal choice. Even though I choose to be honest on mine, I can't see the clean-cut right and wrong morality in it that some can. If it's what you have to do to get work in this recession to keep a roof over your head and feed your family then it's just what you have to do.

Though I'm currently in work, this recession has been nightmarish and there's no way I would judge those still caught up in the worst of it.