Clients 5S Processes

[opc]

I provide services to clientco's central Project Management team. This means I have somewhere to sit at 3 of clientco's offices, relating to different projects I'm running.

One office is implementing a 5S schedule. As part of this, the local team is taking photographs of the "tidy state" of their desks. Each morning they check the state of desks and if they do not match the "tidy state" photo, the occupier of the desk is given a red mark on a wallchart. I'm not sure what happens to people who get too many redmarks

Aside from being almost the most ludicrous waste of effort I have ever come across, I am concerned that this is tantamount to instructing contractors HOW to work - it is several steps beyond a general tidy desk policy. Added to that is that my contact is not actually with the implementing team - I just happen to sit in their office every now and again.

Thoughts please - am I dreaming up the IR35 implications because I think this is a load of........or is there something in this?

[RichardCranium]

Tossers.

That's not an IR35 pointer. It's an anal-retentive pointer.

Having spent some time on MoD sites, I'm accustomed now to having a clear desk. I.e., NOTHING on it except the PC. That's easier to achieve than their pathetic "memory game" system.

Edit: so if you decorate the desk with dildos and joke shop pretend turds, so long as they are lined up tidily and the same way each night, you're OK?

Edit: Link found to explanation.

[jmo21]

what a bunch of twunts!

That is all.

[opc]

I know, it's an effing joke. You would think at some point, someone up the chain would say "hang on, this is stupid".....but I think they don't dare because they'll get put on the "process leanness" blacklist......"mark them down as the old wood, they don't want to get leaner".

Why don't they just have a clean/bare desk policy and leave it at that? Because the black-belt in charge needs his stats on compliance.

I just don't like being treated like a 6 year old by someone I don't even have a contractual relationship with, I guess is the summary of my disgruntledness.

[cojak]

Oh for Gawd's sake - turn it into a skill's development opportunity and put it on yer CV.

I don't know...

[opc]

The ability to shove piles of paper in a drawer is already one of my core competences ;-)

[Grinder]

Can you just put stuff under the desk?

[thelace]

Can you just put stuff under the desk?

Are you trying to alert the 5S police?

[NotAllThere]

Where there's a clean desk policy, I usually end up with very untidy desk drawers.

otoh - kerching. Paid to tidy my desk. pillocks

[jimjamuk]

just leave a bloody mess every day on your desk - collect you marks then ask if you get a prize for being the highest

seriously just ignore.... have a professional desk layout with all the stuff you need - if anyone complains then explain that its a working enviroment - if they dont want you working as efficiently as you can then you could always work from home