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    Simple maths problem: Take home pay

    I think I'm missing something.

    Day rate is 495/day.

    Therefore, including VAT, on a 47 week year, I'm invoicing £130k in theory.

    My simple spreadsheet says VAT is £20k/yr worst case.

    Expenses amount to £20k.

    So corporation tax works out conveniently about £20k.

    So I'm only taking home £130k-£20k-£20k-£20k, i.e, about half my invoiced value?

    I'm SURE this is all wrong and I should sack my accountant.

    #2
    Hi MajorMajor

    Your income is actually about £116k - the VAT element belongs to HMR&C and therefore you shouldn't be including it in calculations to work out your 'take home'

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      #3
      Yep, I'll buy that and had kind of thought it.

      Even so, it's not particularly efficient; 66% of day rate. So I must be missing something.

      (And before someone suggests it, one of those off shore EBT things ain't my bag)

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        #4
        Originally posted by Major Major View Post
        Yep, I'll buy that and had kind of thought it.

        Even so, it's not particularly efficient; 66% of day rate. So I must be missing something.

        (And before someone suggests it, one of those off shore EBT things ain't my bag)
        Nope, 65% to 70% is pretty much it, mostly depending on operating expenses and exacly how you do the salary/divi split. Permies on HRT manage no more than 60% and unlike you they don't pay Employer's NICs, so you're still ahead.
        Blog? What blog...?

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          #5
          Not sure if my way is the best but under my own Ltd Co, I take a 50:50 split.

          I find that that usually covers expenses, VAT, NIC, PAYE etc and usually have a little divi at the end!

          Which is nice
          Who has time? Who has time? But then if we do not ever take time, how can we ever have time?

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            #6
            You've got higher rate tax to factor in as well. But you also need to add flat rate VAT savings.

            70% - 75% is fairly typical at £130k per annum.

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              #7
              Originally posted by stingman123 View Post
              Not sure if my way is the best but under my own Ltd Co, I take a 50:50 split.

              I find that that usually covers expenses, VAT, NIC, PAYE etc and usually have a little divi at the end!

              Which is nice
              What do you mean by 50/50 split?

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                #8
                i try to live off an annual salary of average day rate * £1,000.

                Then at year end, anything left over goes into the pot for the shareholders party

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Major Major View Post
                  I think I'm missing something.

                  Day rate is 495/day.

                  Therefore, including VAT, on a 47 week year, I'm invoicing £130k in theory.

                  My simple spreadsheet says VAT is £20k/yr worst case.

                  Expenses amount to £20k.

                  So corporation tax works out conveniently about £20k.

                  So I'm only taking home £130k-£20k-£20k-£20k, i.e, about half my invoiced value?

                  I'm SURE this is all wrong and I should sack my accountant.

                  this might be helpful.. get the download

                  http://forums.contractoruk.com/accou...heet-calc.html
                  "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Major Major View Post
                    I think I'm missing something.

                    Day rate is 495/day.

                    Therefore, including VAT, on a 47 week year, I'm invoicing £130k in theory.

                    My simple spreadsheet says VAT is £20k/yr worst case.

                    Expenses amount to £20k.

                    So corporation tax works out conveniently about £20k.

                    So I'm only taking home £130k-£20k-£20k-£20k, i.e, about half my invoiced value?

                    I'm SURE this is all wrong and I should sack my accountant.
                    495*5*47= £116k

                    Salary = £10k PAYe = £2k
                    Expenses = £20k

                    Bal = £84k - CT = 17.5k = £66.5

                    So you get 66.5k + 10k = 76.6k [ or about 66% ]

                    Don't forget though, out of your £20 expenses you will probably have some benefit from [ meals & subsitance, nice new laptop etc etc ], so over all you probably actually get some where in the region on 80k which
                    is nearer 70%.
                    Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon

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