I just need to get two references ...

[LucidDementia]

Do people really fall for the really obvious lead generating emails?

Must do or they'd stop sending them...

[theroyale]

Roc Search

Roc Search.

To be fair I had made the call to pimp to follow up on a genuine role for which I had applied. When it turned out that my skillset didn't quite match what the client would want, pimp turned his attention to going through my CV and asking quite straight-out, "Who was your manager at xxx in 2012?"

Call ended quite quickly after that.

A question for people: do you tend to keep your professional cool with agents who are clearly fishing for sales leads, or do you "let them know" somehow that they're being unprofessional bast***s? My preference is usually for the latter...

[psychocandy]

ROCSearch are the worlds worst by a mile....
I must admit if I see a role advertised by them I often look to see if anyone else has got it rather than deal with them.

[psychocandy]

Seems it's the season for fresh pimps at the moment. I've a few emails from ex-double glazing salesmen in the last few days. One was congratulating me on being "shortlisted to his personal talent pool" and asking me to call to discuss some exciting new roles and finding out about my experience and situation. The guy was obviously really good at shortlisting as he'd only just joined the firm.

I don't know how I avoided calling up for a ten minute discussion about where I'd worked before and who my "managers" were. It was a difficult decision to make.

Do people really fall for the really obvious lead generating emails?

I've had similar. Do they think people are going to say "Wow, thats great news. Thanks so much"

[Bee]

Precious topic.

I received a call with a very interesting role but they ask for the references before moving forward with the application. It sound strange to me but with the excitement I gave it. I never received any feedback from them.

It was the 1st time and the last. Next time I had the same situation and the answer was “sorry I only give references after a successful interview”.

With this topic, now I understand why.

Thank you so much.

[clearedforlanding]

Ework. At least no attempt at pretending.

Please, apply directly through our system with

- your updated CV
- your hourly rate (all included)
- name and telephone number to 2 reference persons eWork can contact (we will contact your reference persons first after contact with you)
- information on when you are available to start
- in the Motivation describe why you are suitable for this assignment - refer to earlier assignments, employments, education and personal qualities.

[Navigator101]

3 Years... your kidding, right?

"3 years employment references (Name of Referee, Relationship, Contact Details.). Any gaps of 30-89 days will need to be covered by an email stating you were not in employment during this period, if the gap is 90 days or more we will require documentation to cover this such as bank statements, passport stamp if you were travelling, or JSA letters."

WTF? Its wrapped up as though this is a legal requirement.

[Eirikur]

"3 years employment references (Name of Referee, Relationship, Contact Details.). Any gaps of 30-89 days will need to be covered by an email stating you were not in employment during this period, if the gap is 90 days or more we will require documentation to cover this such as bank statements, passport stamp if you were travelling, or JSA letters."

WTF? Its wrapped up as though this is a legal requirement.

In Finance it's generally 5 or 6 years of the above, in one case I have seen 10 years
And you must know the referee for at least 3 years

[MicrosoftBob]

Roc Search.

To be fair I had made the call to pimp to follow up on a genuine role for which I had applied. When it turned out that my skillset didn't quite match what the client would want, pimp turned his attention to going through my CV and asking quite straight-out, "Who was your manager at xxx in 2012?"

Call ended quite quickly after that.

A question for people: do you tend to keep your professional cool with agents who are clearly fishing for sales leads, or do you "let them know" somehow that they're being unprofessional bast***s? My preference is usually for the latter...

Just tell them your manager was any invented silly name and leave them to it

Hugh...you can guess the rest

[Eirikur]

New (for me at least) variation on the 2 references question.
Spoke to the agent who found me on linkedin, all seemed ok, although he didn't want to mention the end client's name. But said he would forward my cv as soon as I send it to him and would reveal who the end client is as soon as the phone interview got confirmed. So I sent my cv and got this reply:

I would definitely like to get you a Phone Interview with the Client.
Also, I noticed that you haven’t worked with us before, and the Client expects our candidates to be pre-screened, so we would need to do a quick skill check when setting up an interview.

Basically, it’s a 2 minute conversation with any two Managers who you reported to over the last 2-3 years, just to confirm that you worked there.

So would there be any two End Client Managers who can quickly confirm your skills?

Once that’s complete, I can also submit you for as many future roles as you like.

Goodbye, not wasting anymore time on this one, except posting here of course