found out my agency is making 400

[BoredBloke]

Check on jobserve for the going rate for your role/location. If it is closer to what the agency is pulling then I'd sack everything and look for another role - but tell the client why you want to go. i.e. you like it there but you are on a fraction of the normal daily rate. If the amount the client is paying is way above the daily rate then you might still want to walk, but also tell the client before you do to knobble the agency who has been ripping them off for years.

As for how you know the amount - who cares. Somebody in the accounts dept could have told you - an invoice could have been left on the photocopier. It doesn't mater, the thing is you know.

[trsisko]

wow thankyou for your comments, i will take them into consideration on what to do..

i am the best contracter here on the service desk, i can do desktop support also..

the guys who have come and gone dont know much and i have done the majority of the work. I am entitlyed to a pay increase not to mention i have been here over 1 year and 17.40 an hour sucks, my mate who used to work here is now on 28 else where so damn the market is OK.

Mind you im comfortible here and will push to go on desktop support full time in decemebr when my contract runs out.
Another killer is i have a friend from my previous work doing th same job albiet does half as much work as me and is through kellys and is on 23 an hour lol

i know they are looking to dump logix probably becasue they charing 400 a day per contractor.
Im going to have to be very tactical i doubt i'll get a rise but i will try.

Thanks again for your comments it certainly helps in planning my next action

WAR! trsisko

[NotAllThere]

Trsisko, and I say this with your best interests at heart: either learn to spell, or learn to put everything you type through a spell checker!

( btw, one of my mates is a very senior account manager for a pharmaceutical company, and due to dyslexia, can't spell either. So, it's not that important! )

Certainly, finish your contract. Then start looking for more money. And I like the fact that you say that you are the best contractor there. That's the right attitude.

[XperTest]

I don't mean to be rude, but in your line of business isn't 400/day extremely high..? If so, you could argue it's the client that's being taken for a ride, not necessarily (just) you..

[Keldin]

I think taking that kind of margin is crooked and deserves to get the agency booted from the clients books.
They've taken £400 a day from the client in order to supply them with a 'resource' that the client thinks is worth £350 a day. What they end up getting is either someone who is worth far less in which case they're not getting value for their money or they have someone who is worth it but pissed off because he's underpaid.
The agency has either told the client he needs £400 to find someone and then gone and gotten the cheapest they could find or found someone cheap and then lied to the client about how much it costs. Either way teh client will be pissed. When I was buying hardware from a preferred supplier it was on a negotiated fixed markup. They expect similar deals from agencies.
Tell the client you can't renew next time because you have a better offer through an agency that doesn't take such a huge markup on your rate. You're not telling them what your current agency is taking or what they're paying you. They'll work it out easily enough.
The most important thing is have another contract to go to - it makes negotiating a good renewal a lot easier and then if they won't pay up walk away and go to the new gig.

K

[kesm]

[QUOTE=TheFaQQer;322267]What he said - some agencies are given a budget to work to and will bring someone in on that budget, others work on a fixed margin.
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What do you mean when you say the work on a fixed margin?

Many thanks.

[malvolio]

[quote=kesm;322621]

What he said - some agencies are given a budget to work to and will bring someone in on that budget, others work on a fixed margin.
QUOTE]

What do you mean when you say the work on a fixed margin?

Many thanks.

Some agencies, mainly those on Preferred Supplier Lists, agree with the client that they will charge a set percentage for all contractors they supply. So if contractor A wants £200 and contractor B wnats £300 and the agency has agreed 10%, they will charge the client £220 for A and £330 for B.

But can you see the slight flaw in that arrangement? And why some contracts say that you must not discuss rate with the client or other contractors? For example, suppose the agency charged £330 for bnoth contractor A and B...?

[Sockpuppet]

i am the best contracter here on the service desk, i can do desktop support also..

here over 1 year and 17.40 an hour sucks, my mate who used to work here is now on 28 else where so damn the market is OK.

Mind you im comfortible here and will push to go on desktop support full time in decemebr when my contract runs out.
Another killer is i have a friend from my previous work doing th same job albiet does half as much work as me and is through kellys and is on 23 an hour lol

a) Don't have that "I am the god damn best" attitude unless you really 1000% are. There is a fine line between arrogance and confidence. That attitude cost me 2 permie jobs (except I was and still and the god damn best... )

b) Don't ever say £17.40 an hour sucks. I know people that survive on min wage. Your skills may warrant more but an attitude like that will make you lose friends real fast.

c) Just because he is on £23 an hour doesn't mean he is more expensive. If his agy are charging less then he could be cheaper than you.

End of you agreed to the terms and conditions. My last gig the agent made somewhere in the region of £150/day over what I did. Not fussed as I was happy with the rate that I was getting.

[ruth11]

I would say it's the client that's being fleeced, not you.
I don't know any company who would pay £400 a day for service desk. Not even for Desktop Support. My last company would only pay £25 an hour for a 3rd line server support engineer (they didn't get many apply I admit, but still...).

Maybe you read it wrong and that rate is actually for someone else?

[TheFaQQer]

I would say it's the client that's being fleeced, not you.
I don't know any company who would pay £400 a day for service desk. Not even for Desktop Support. My last company would only pay £25 an hour for a 3rd line server support engineer (they didn't get many apply I admit, but still...).

Maybe you read it wrong and that rate is actually for someone else?

I'm with you there - if they are paying £400 a day for service desk, then I'll give up the hard work that I do and take it easy in support.