Prince2 -Info Required

[boxman]

Great thanks for the info Peter

[Lucy]

Neither, from my perspective, is the Practitioner, TBH. I'd rather have people who have delivered real-world projects than people who have done a week's training!

But it is valuable knowledge and the certs are always a good way to move you up the in-tray, all else being equal.

Crumbs Malvolio, I would rather work alongside ppl who at least understand the principles, so many half-baked PMs out there who know nothing about structure or pbp, and they are a nightmare.

IMO any monkey can drag something over the line, only a trained monkey can do it on time on budget and get something close to what was needed in the first place.

[poser]

Mave Training I did mine with, great tuition they supply all materials, definately worth doing the prep reading though as this will give you a good insight. When I did mine a few ppl didnt bother doing the pre reading and held up class.

Do not be fooled by the new practitioner exam its not meant to be easier than the essay exam just a different format. Main thing for practitioner exam is to have your text book labelled up correctly - ask examiner.

[malvolio]

Crumbs Malvolio, I would rather work alongside ppl who at least understand the principles, so many half-baked PMs out there who know nothing about structure or pbp, and they are a nightmare.

IMO any monkey can drag something over the line, only a trained monkey can do it on time on budget and get something close to what was needed in the first place.

Not what I said. Clearly you have to know the governance, risk and process management stuff, which is what I would test at the interview stage. But I have also worked alongside people with Prince2 and ITIL Managers who couldn't deliver a wet head in a rainstorm. As far as the end client is concerned, it is delivery that matters, not how elegantly you do it - although as a PM I would much prefer calm elegance to controlled panic, I'll settle for on time, on spec and to budget.

Incidentally I have never taken a Prince2 exam, and learned such PM skills as I posess in the early 80s with ICL when it was still PRINCE. So perhaps I am a little blasé about the value of paper qualifications in the real world!

[Dean]

They're changing the format of the Practitioner exam. There are no longer three essay type questions. Now, just as the foundation is, the Practitioner will be in entirely multiple choice format.

P

Gah! I blame the government - they've devalued GCSE and A-levels so that everybody can have a hatful, now they're doing the same to Prince!



Where'd I leave my copy of the Daily Mail?

[fridge]

Neither, from my perspective, is the Practitioner, TBH. I'd rather have people who have delivered real-world projects than people who have done a week's training!

But it is valuable knowledge and the certs are always a good way to move you up the in-tray, all else being equal.

Real time training on PRINCE and actual real time working experience is what counts. Just doing the course on its own is not enough.

[Sockpuppet]

Neither, from my perspective, is the Practitioner, TBH. I'd rather have people who have delivered real-world projects than people who have done a week's training!

But it is valuable knowledge and the certs are always a good way to move you up the in-tray, all else being equal.

PRINCE2 for some roles is like a degree to others. Gets you past that "must have prince2 filter".

Most of my clients have asked me what PRINCE2 is

[Muttley08]

Agree with Malvolio et al

Good for pimps trying to filter - gets you past them.

On the job in reality, experience and nouse counts.

Where I'm working at the moment has an awful lot of paper shuffling, spreadsheet filling PM's supplied via a consultancy who are awful at delivering and actually talking to and motivating teams to deliver.