Job of the week (worst recruiter reach outs of the week)

[GigiBronz]

When I get email like that, with silly rates, I always make a point of going back with what rate I expect. I never hear back, and I doubt it changes anything, but a little bit of me hopes that message makes its way back to those with the budget.

I was as professional as I could be and said that: “for that rate I am not getting out of bed”

[northernladuk]

I was as professional as I could be and said that: “for that rate I am not getting out of bed”

To be fair I'm on a great rate and still get out of bed The joys of remote working. Just have to tape the camera up so don't accidently turn it on.

[Mephisto]

Is this the official crap contracts thread?

I get it. It's the pubic sector but good god...

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Transformation and Change Programme Manager
Inital (sic) 2 month contract with extension possibilities
£30.10 per hour, Inside IR35
FULL TIME OFFICE BASED IN BRADFORD
37 hours per week - Full Time

My Client are a Local Government organisation based in Bradford, West Yorkshire and are seeking a Transformation and Change Programme Manager on a short term assignment.

Ideal candidate attributes:

• 5 years experience of operating at a senior management level within a large multifunctional public service organisation, and in a service area relevant to the post.
• 3 years demonstrable experience of driving and delivering change, facilitating work groups and programme and project management experience.
• L6 - NQF Level 6 - Bachelors Degree, postgraduate qualifications, or equivalent level or professional qualification in a relevant discipline.
• A formal Project Management qualification eg PRINCE 2, MSP or significant programme and project management experience amounting to 5 years.

'Please can we have the world from you? In return we'll give you the sewers that run underneath every major Conurbation + contents aka £222.74 per day! Special bonus ... wait for it ... you'll be INSIDE IR35!! That's ~£3,500 after tax per MONTH* !! APPLY NOW!'

*according to listentotaxman and before any brolly deductions
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Sorry if any of my maths is off and yes the Comic Sans is deliberate. Very deliberate.

[Lance]

Is this the official crap contracts thread?

I get it. It's the pubic sector but good god...

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Transformation and Change Programme Manager
Inital (sic) 2 month contract with extension possibilities
£30.10 per hour, Inside IR35
FULL TIME OFFICE BASED IN BRADFORD
37 hours per week - Full Time

My Client are a Local Government organisation based in Bradford, West Yorkshire and are seeking a Transformation and Change Programme Manager on a short term assignment.

Ideal candidate attributes:

• 5 years experience of operating at a senior management level within a large multifunctional public service organisation, and in a service area relevant to the post.
• 3 years demonstrable experience of driving and delivering change, facilitating work groups and programme and project management experience.
• L6 - NQF Level 6 - Bachelors Degree, postgraduate qualifications, or equivalent level or professional qualification in a relevant discipline.
• A formal Project Management qualification eg PRINCE 2, MSP or significant programme and project management experience amounting to 5 years.

'Please can we have the world from you? In return we'll give you the sewers that run underneath every major Conurbation + contents aka £222.74 per day! Special bonus ... wait for it ... you'll be INSIDE IR35!! That's ~£3,500 after tax per MONTH* !! APPLY NOW!'

*according to listentotaxman and before any brolly deductions
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Sorry if any of my maths is off and yes the Comic Sans is deliberate. Very deliberate.

that's an FTE/prem they want with a 2 month trial. Not a contractor.

It's the 4th one down this list I reckon City of Bradford MDC (engageats.co.uk)
but an agency is trying to get someone in.

[northernladuk]

Is this the official crap contracts thread?

No it's not. General is the place for these.

[JustKeepSwimming]

that's an FTE/prem they want with a 2 month trial. Not a contractor.

It's the 4th one down this list I reckon City of Bradford MDC (engageats.co.uk)
but an agency is trying to get someone in.

£50k public sector with presumably good benefits is absolutely not £30/h. They are taking the piss.

[Lance]

£50k public sector with presumably good benefits is absolutely not £30/h. They are taking the piss.

so how much is per hour then oh wise one?

[Mephisto]

No it's not. General is the place for these.

Ta. Not been on for awhile and generally(!) avoided General.

[northernladuk]

Ta. Not been on for awhile and generally(!) avoided General.

Very wise

[JustKeepSwimming]

so how much is per hour then oh wise one?

£30.10 x 37 hours x 45 weeks = £50,116.

So the gross is the same as the salary.

That is before umbrella costs.

That is before employer national insurance.

That is before benefits, mainly pension.

I make it out at about £40-42/h to be financially equal-ish. Some like and think there should be a premium on top of that due to the temporary nature of the role.