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    Contract ending before April 6th and IR35

    I have a quick question on a contract done through a Ltd company and ending before April 6th.

    - Can HMRC review contracts ended before April 6th? I have been told that most likely HMRC won't look at contracts ended before April 6th, but i don't know how much is that true.

    - Contract was done through a Ltd company, What will be the implications if the contract gets an extension and treated as inside IR35 (PAYE), would the old contract automatically be classed as inside IR35?

    Thanks

    #2
    Originally posted by djones123 View Post
    I have a quick question on a contract done through a Ltd company and ending before April 6th.

    - Can HMRC review contracts ended before April 6th? I have been told that most likely HMRC won't look at contracts ended before April 6th, but i don't know how much is that true.
    Doesn't sound true. They can go back 6 years, or further if they suspect fraud. April 6th has no bearing on what HMRC can investigate.
    I think you are misunderstanding something, or been told an untruth.


    Originally posted by djones123 View Post

    - Contract was done through a Ltd company, What will be the implications if the contract gets an extension and treated as inside IR35 (PAYE), would the old contract automatically be classed as inside IR35?
    It can't be extended to inside IR35. It will be a new contract.
    The old contract could, under scrutiny be considered as inside based on the client determining that you are inside now. HMRC may well interpret that as evidence of always having been inside.
    Isn't it a bit late to researching this?
    There's absolutely loads of threads about all manner of related items. You should do some reading ASAP.
    Especially as it has been uncovered that you could be determined outside after April 6th, and then client change their mind some time later.


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      #3
      Yeah, no-one here believes that old chestnut...

      1,500 GlaxoSmithKline contractors hit by HMRC’s new IR35 letters (contractoruk.com)
      "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
      - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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        #4
        Originally posted by Lance View Post
        Doesn't sound true. They can go back 6 years, or further if they suspect fraud. April 6th has no bearing on what HMRC can investigate.
        I think you are misunderstanding something, or been told an untruth.




        It can't be extended to inside IR35. It will be a new contract.
        The old contract could, under scrutiny be considered as inside based on the client determining that you are inside now. HMRC may well interpret that as evidence of always having been inside.
        Isn't it a bit late to researching this?
        There's absolutely loads of threads about all manner of related items. You should do some reading ASAP.
        Especially as it has been uncovered that you could be determined outside after April 6th, and then client change their mind some time later.

        I have also been thinking about closing my ltd company after paying 40% tax and other dues as i don't see any benefit of leaving it open.

        My current contract is with the healthcare company who is waiting on gov to sign their contract.

        I will try to negotiate my new contract terms with the client to make it IR35 compliance otherwise it is not worth continuing.

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          #5
          Originally posted by djones123 View Post
          I have a quick question on a contract done through a Ltd company and ending before April 6th.

          - Can HMRC review contracts ended before April 6th? I have been told that most likely HMRC won't look at contracts ended before April 6th, but i don't know how much is that true.
          It is completely false. You are confusing two things. They've said that they will not automatically investigate earlier contracts on the basis of information received after April 5 (e.g., an SDS), unless there is evidence of fraud. However, they are not stopping IR35 enforcement. So, certainly, you could be investigated for work completed before April 6.

          Originally posted by djones123 View Post
          - Contract was done through a Ltd company, What will be the implications if the contract gets an extension and treated as inside IR35 (PAYE), would the old contract automatically be classed as inside IR35?

          Thanks
          The main implication will be that you were inside IR35 all along, absent a clear and documented change in working practices. The other implication is that you may get caught and find YourCo liable for any taxes, penalties and interest due.

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