Getting line managers to think the right way about contract renewals

[northernladuk]

I know I have a low post count but I've been contracting for 19 years. These days I report to directors.

No you don't. Permies report to directors.

* line manager. Or whatever.

You appear to find it a bit of a joke or something. How are you supposed to educate them on what they need to do and act when you don't know yoursef? If you can think and act in a certain way, including terminology everything will be much easier.

[SussexSeagull]

If I am being honest other than doing your job well there isn't that much you can do unless they have completely forgotten your end date. Generally speaking I have either gone when the project has finished or when someone decides they don't want to pay you anymore. In either instance no amount of niche skills or smooth talking are going to make much difference.

[perplexed]

It's a multi-pronged approach to getting clients to think better about how to manage contractors.

I'd firstly say they should take the engagement out of HR's hands and give to procurement, and then give training to managers on the difference between a contractor vs a temp vs a permie / FTC and scenarios each works best in.

There's anecdotes galore, I'm sure. Being told you have to contribute to the tea and biscuit fund, getting invited on teambuilding days out, etc

Maybe if PCG / IPSE had focused on getting privat sector companies on board by pushing for benefits for disguised employees. then clients could well have thought better about managing contractors a long time ago...

[CalmEddie]

No you don't. Permies report to directors.

I can't keep up with your preferred lexicon. Definition of report? of contractor? Which is it this time?

Well before you take away my contractor card because I'm inside IR35, there is no problem with me reporting to anyone or in fact having people report to me.

[ladymuck]

Maybe if PCG / IPSE had focused on getting privat sector companies on board by pushing for benefits for disguised employees. then clients could well have thought better about managing contractors a long time ago...

The trouble with benefits is that they are provided by the company and don't fit the "same work = same tax" mantra that HMRC were touting.

Now, if were to look at employee rights and push for those to be given to disguised employees...

[eek]

The trouble with benefits is that they are provided by the company and don't fit the "same work = same tax" mantra that HMRC were touting.

Now, if were to look at employee rights and push for those to be given to disguised employees...

Oh that will come - otherwise the medium term viewpoint is that everyone will be employed by umbrella companies