Online Test for Interview

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It does not work for anyone. If you consider the risk of bench time. Risk of tax investigations. The risk premium you would get for a contract is not actually worth it.

If you are a high flyer and getting north of £800pd outside contract. Good for you. I would presume there are not many of those roles around.

For the rest of run of the mill people that were seeing an opportunity to stay away from corporate politics, afford more holidays per year there is only one option now: go permi and see yourself being fired in 6m when the client no longer needs you there.
If they need a temporary resource now, they'll just get someone in, lie to him of the opportunities and amount of work than fire him in 1 year when there is no more work around on a made up reason.

There are not many rights for a person working for an organisation for less than 2 years.
Or if they want total protection, they put you on 3m probation than extend that once or twice before firing you.
Business as usual.

Given the amount of money a recruitment firm charges for permanent recruitment, companies won't be pretending to seek permanent employees when they want temporary ones. It would be cheaper all round to just something to an inside IR35 contract.

[GigiBronz]

Given the amount of money a recruitment firm charges for permanent recruitment, companies won't be pretending to seek permanent employees when they want temporary ones. It would be cheaper all round to just something to an inside IR35 contract.

Are you sure about that? Have you done the math on that? Usually is 15% of yearly salary with sometimes a break-out clause if employee leaves or is not up to standard.

Assumed 220 days in year with 400pd that is 88k per year. Assumed 15% agency margin.
For 400pd you'd struggle to get even someone to fit your central heating.... but for 70k you'd have a queue of highly skilled professionals at your door.

The poor sod has the impression is taken care of, long term security as opposed to a short term resource that delivers and leaves. Better for his productivity.

[vwdan]

Worked out fine pre the IR35 rules, I did 20 years outside IR35, and invoiced for well over £2,000,000 in that period.

HTH BIDI

Well done you, we're all so very proud. Sorry you weren't good enough to even attempt to weather the storm, though.

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Are you sure about that? Have you done the math on that? Usually is 15% of yearly salary with sometimes a break-out clause if employee leaves or is not up to standard.

Assumed 220 days in year with 400pd that is 88k per year. Assumed 15% agency margin.
For 400pd you'd struggle to get even someone to fit your central heating.... but for 70k you'd have a queue of highly skilled professionals at your door.

The poor sod has the impression is taken care of, long term security as opposed to a short term resource that delivers and leaves. Better for his productivity.

15% is incredibly low - most of the ones I'm talking to are 20%+, 30% isn't uncommon... Mind you I'm talking about specialist firms not the Office People of this world.

[GigiBronz]

15% is incredibly low - most of the ones I'm talking to are 20%+, 30% isn't uncommon... Mind you I'm talking about specialist firms not the Office People of this world.

The agency can demand similar margins or even higher. But still, it would be cheaper option than an £600pd run of the mill contractor.
You get a more manageable resource, with a single approach across the organisation. One approach across the country.
It keeps people in their place as there is not so much emphasis on anyone's value.(that they are made aware of)

Company politics helps with results vaguely being linked to someone while the weekly lovely 1-1s promotes a continuous undermined state of mind.

It is cheaper, more manageable approach that works better for the corporate world. Especially a world with increased emphasis on control.

It is not about the finances, it is about ideology. It has always been.

[pictavia]

Hi all,

In these covid times companies are giving online timed tests for .NET c# and other languages. Does anyone have any experience with these? Any idea on formats etc?

I've had some experience of these tests but I try to avoid them where possible, especially where the test is likely to take up a lot of my time. Formats vary, some are multiple choice, while others you'll be doing some coding or even a code review. There could be a broad range of questions, but the test maybe more focused, I had one where all questions were on operator precedence.

It may be worth asking the agency which test provider the client is using then investigate the possibility of a practice test or information that will help you prepare.

[NotAllThere]

Worked out fine pre the IR35 rules, I did 20 years outside IR35, and invoiced for well over £2,000,000 in that period.

INKSPE. But hey, there's no shame in being poor.

[DimPrawn]

INKSPE. But hey, there's no shame in being poor.

I never said I was rich, just richer than sasguru.

[SussexSeagull]

The agency can demand similar margins or even higher. But still, it would be cheaper option than an £600pd run of the mill contractor.

Not sure anyone on £3,000 a week could ever be described as run of the mill. The average salary is the UK is apparently only £585 a week.

[SueEllen]

Not sure anyone on £3,000 a week could ever be described as run of the mill. The average salary is the UK is apparently only £585 a week.

BC (before Covid)