New job, no agency - best approach to negotiate rate?

[FK1]

"New job", "Negotiate rate". It is corrupted from the beginning with that mindset. That is why a taxman hunting us.

"New client", "Build a client loyalty". What rate is not that important for profit. In opposite, discounts may help more. Returning customer is the heart of any success.

[GhostofTarbera]

Client may be expecting you to do the job at same rate a permie would - surprised rate has not come up until now? Stop dreaming of top tier rates your client may laugh at


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[Lance]

I've been offered a new contract which I've got direct with client, no agency involvement.

Client may be expecting you to do the job at same rate a permie would - surprised rate has not come up until now? Stop dreaming of top tier rates your client may laugh at

That's a good point.
You can't have any sort of offer without a rate.
What you have is a sales enquiry. Time to provide a quote.

[kryten22uk]

Well, I put in my desired rate at the top end, with an additional £50 for expected negotiation, and they accepted it (after seeking exec approvals). So happy days.

[BR14]

Well, I put in my desired rate at the top end, with an additional £50 for expected negotiation, and they accepted it (after seeking exec approvals). So happy days.

I hate it when they rip your arm off.
it means they'd have paid more if you asked.
it's a right bugger.

[GhostofTarbera]

You could have got £250 a day more easy


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[Old Greg]

I hate it when they rip your arm off.
it means they'd have paid more if you asked.
it's a right bugger.

A friend of mine just started a contract. He wanted €750 pd so asked for 850. Ended up with 950 + flights, hotels, taxis to and from airport.

[northernladuk]

A friend of mine just started a contract. He wanted €750 pd so asked for 850. Ended up with 950 + flights, hotels, taxis to and from airport.

I bloody hate it when that happens

[gnarledcontractor]

I bloody hate it when that happens

Yeah, I normally go down the pub and quietly sob into my pint...

[Old Greg]

Yeah, I normally go down the pub and quietly sob into my pint...

Try doing that in Kabul. If it sounds too good to be true...