Leaving contract big problem

[northernladuk]

Your relationship should be with the client as well - I've had repeat business, direct, with higher rates as a result.

Indeed he hasn't even started on site yet. He's had one interview with someone he calls the boss. Crying off about the stress the second time he meets the client isn't really much of a relationship. Let's try and get him to understand his contractual relationships first and we'll work on the rest later...

[LondonManc]

What a sorry thread this is turning out to be.


All this after you were told that you have no contractual obligation to the client (and for christ sake stop calling him the boss).
I'm not surprised he let you go immediately. You sign a contract and before you started you are whining about the commute and the stress. He'll be glad to see the back of you. You could have been honest with him.


He thinks you are daft noob and they are having bets in the office about how long they can yank your chain for.

But yes you need a doctors note.

He called him the manager - I often do that rather than the elongated "hiring manager" just to appease your pedantic ways.

[1manshow]

He called him the manager - I often do that rather than the elongated "hiring manager" just to appease your pedantic ways.

NL is the most IR35-phobic person I know .

[northernladuk]

NL is the most IR35-phobic person I know .

Well it's not really about IR35. It's more about going about your business properly. You want to be contractor with all the perks then act like one.

In many cases we see on here much of the problem is around the misunderstanding of the newbie contractor. This one is a great example. If the OP can get in the mindset that it's his client, not his boss then many situations about who you speak to to get the right outcome will become a lot clearer.

Yeah I'm overly pedantic about it with the newbies but I believe it's going to help in the long run. Contracting is a change of mindset, not just the way we get our money. I don't see anything wrong with being a good contractor.

[LondonManc]

NL is the most IR35-phobic person I know .

Not really, he's trying to educate people about behaving like a business. I'm sure NL would have no problem taking an inside-IR35 contract for the right rate.
It just goes a bit OTT when he's off at a tangent about hiring manager nomenclatures when that's nowhere near the pertinent issue.

[ContractorScum]

NL is the most IR35-phobic person I know .

It's a good habit to get into. If HMRC come knocking and you start talking about your 'boss/manager' then you may as well get your cheque book ready.

[northernladuk]

Not really, he's trying to educate people about behaving like a business. I'm sure NL would have no problem taking an inside-IR35 contract for the right rate.

Done that albeit for a short time.

It just goes a bit OTT when he's off at a tangent about hiring manager nomenclatures when that's nowhere near the pertinent issue.

Well, I'm obviously labouring a point that's annoying people but he states it's his second contract and he's been back in to the client to give notice... So I'd say clearing up who's who in the relationship is near the pertinent issue.

[LondonManc]

Done that albeit for a short time.


Well, I'm obviously labouring a point that's annoying people but he states it's his second contract and he's been back in to the client to give notice... So I'd say clearing up who's who in the relationship is near the pertinent issue.

I'd rather maintain the relationship with the client than the agent to be honest. Talking to the client will help you to see what their stance is and make sure that the agent doesn't burn bridges between you and the client for a further engagement later.

[northernladuk]

I'd rather maintain the relationship with the client than the agent to be honest. Talking to the client will help you to see what their stance is and make sure that the agent doesn't burn bridges between you and the client for a further engagement later.

Absolutely. But that's not really going to be an option in this case me thinks

[MJR7987]

All this over me getting terminology wrong by calling someone who runs the department the "boss" haha. Next time i'll make sure i'll get it spot on if it bothered you that much. Fair enough if i'd been doing it for years and had dozens of contracts and experience, it was my second ever contract and did i know the correct terms for each relevant person...no, would i learn them down the line after more exposure...yes. Hopefully that's that done now.

Anyway, i couldn't get an appointment today at the doctors office (GP surgeries these days are very busy for a number of reasons we can all guess why i think) but i hope to get one tomorrow, meanwhile after me telling the relentless agent that i would forward him the note after i got one, he then emails me again at the end of today telling me that i need to send it and i haven't sent it over yet therefore i should be there at the job even though i had the discussion with the client (boss ) yesterday and he was fine with us leaving it there and then and the agent knowing that.

Hopefully i'll get an appointment tomorrow and get the guy off my case, the way he words some of his emails are borderline threatening to be honest.