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New to contracting - Whats a reasonable number of contracted hours?

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    #31
    Originally posted by malvolio View Post
    I've only been doing this for 21 years. I'll keep practising.

    But I stand by my interpretation. I didn't say it was right, only that it is what the agency (or perhaps some fool middle manager at the client) is trying to say and suggesting a non-suicidal option for the OP to clarify things. But hey, I don't really care if you all disagree.

    Donald Trump has been in the business world for decades - therefore, he is a great businessman and of wise notoriety.

    Pretty sure the viewers of this thread will see your comment for what it was: a complete nonsense.
    In possession of faculties. Almost.

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      #32
      Originally posted by dundeedude View Post
      Donald Trump has been in the business world for decades - therefore, he is a great businessman and of wise notoriety.

      Pretty sure the viewers of this thread will see your comment for what it was: a complete nonsense.
      No need to be rude.

      You and other posters cannot read the word "estimated".

      "Estimated" is a rough calculation. In other words the OP may work more hours than this or less.

      The reason the numbers are in there is because the agency and client doesn't want you going home when there is a major system failure because you have done your hours.

      Personally I would suggest that the OP gets the PWD definition changed and also alter one of the clauses so it makes it clear the OP will do work as needed to be done within reason.
      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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        #33
        Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
        No need to be rude.

        You and other posters cannot read the word "estimated".

        "Estimated" is a rough calculation. In other words the OP may work more hours than this or less.

        The reason the numbers are in there is because the agency and client doesn't want you going home when there is a major system failure because you have done your hours.

        Personally I would suggest that the OP gets the PWD definition changed and also alter one of the clauses so it makes it clear the OP will do work as needed to be done within reason.
        Estimated hours beyond 35 a week means that they really need more than 1 person to do the work...
        merely at clientco for the entertainment

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          #34
          Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
          You and other posters cannot read the word "estimated".
          "Estimated" is a rough calculation. In other words the OP may work more hours thn this or less.
          I read the word estimated, but I interpreted it as 'expected'. i.e. I felt there was risk that the client would then be within their rights to expect that many hours per day and then say 'well we did tell you this is how many hours we estimated you'd need to do in the contract' ... and then potentially not sign time sheets etc until you did this estimated number of hours.


          Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
          Personally I would suggest that the OP gets the PWD definition changed and also alter one of the clauses so it makes it clear the OP will do work as needed to be done within reason.
          This is what i have now done, and after some initial pushback they have said they will update to say PWD is expected 8 hours, but up to a *max* of 10 if required ...

          My expectation is that I'll need to do 9,10 hour days fairly often, and even 11 + hour days sometimes ... and am OK with this from time to time, but was just very uncomfortable with the contract having something that implied (to me) that they may not sign time sheets if i hadn't been in the office for 10 hours.

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            #35
            Originally posted by mrtuk View Post
            I read the word estimated, but I interpreted it as 'expected'. i.e. I felt there was risk that the client would then be within their rights to expect that many hours per day and then say 'well we did tell you this is how many hours we estimated you'd need to do in the contract' ... and then potentially not sign time sheets etc until you did this estimated number of hours.

            This is what i have now done, and after some initial pushback they have said they will update to say PWD is expected 8 hours, but up to a *max* of 10 if required ...

            My expectation is that I'll need to do 9,10 hour days fairly often, and even 11 + hour days sometimes ... and am OK with this from time to time, but was just very uncomfortable with the contract having something that implied (to me) that they may not sign time sheets if i hadn't been in the office for 10 hours.
            Well done and thanks for letting us know. Life's a negotiation when you're a contractor.
            The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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              #36
              So we're back to my original interpretation of what they were trying to say. Heigh ho...
              Blog? What blog...?

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