Always check SC is transferred...

[perplexed]

I very much doubt that when it comes to SC.

Who is the vetting agency?? SC can only be transferred between List X companies. I didn't think any agencies are required or even allowed to mess about with SC? Do you mean DBS National Security Vetting?

DBS NSV.

List X companies involved.

Informed by security when given access pass that SC had been transferred. Company hadn't put a request in. Have accepted via email they made a mistake.

When I say people play hard and fast, lack of SC shouldn't be a barrier to applying for roles. Potential end client in public sector only want people with active, transferrable clearance. It happens.

I'm not absolving myself, I take blame not not being as on the ball as I should have. Hoping people don't make the same mistakes - I was naive to believe what the security at the company were saying.

[MrMarkyMark]

DBS NSV.

List X companies involved.

Informed by security when given access pass that SC had been transferred. Company hadn't put a request in. Have accepted via email they made a mistake.

When I say people play hard and fast, lack of SC shouldn't be a barrier to applying for roles. Potential end client in public sector only want people with active, transferrable clearance. It happens.

I'm not absolving myself, I take blame not not being as on the ball as I should have. Hoping people don't make the same mistakes - I was naive to believe what the security at the company were saying.

I have never seen any contract role that will "wait" until someone gets clearance.
Obviously against the rules, but this has been the case ever since I first started contracting (15 years or so).

[malvolio]

DBS NSV.

List X companies involved.

Informed by security when given access pass that SC had been transferred. Company hadn't put a request in. Have accepted via email they made a mistake.

When I say people play hard and fast, lack of SC shouldn't be a barrier to applying for roles. Potential end client in public sector only want people with active, transferrable clearance. It happens.

I'm not absolving myself, I take blame not not being as on the ball as I should have. Hoping people don't make the same mistakes - I was naive to believe what the security at the company were saying.

Doesn't matter why, mistake or not. You are not cleared any more.

Now go and persuade your new client that they can use non-cleared people on cleared roles providing that adequate oversight and supervision can be provided and that both parties accept the gig may end abruptly if clearance isn't subsequently forthcoming.

And in future keep track of your status yourself.

[perplexed]

Doesn't matter why, mistake or not. You are not cleared any more.

Now go and persuade your new client that they can use non-cleared people on cleared roles providing that adequate oversight and supervision can be provided and that both parties accept the gig may end abruptly if clearance isn't subsequently forthcoming.

And in future keep track of your status yourself.

Indeed. Whole point of the thread was so that hopefully others won't be as lax and make the same mistakes as I did.

[Lance]

I have never seen any contract role that will "wait" until someone gets clearance.
Obviously against the rules, but this has been the case ever since I first started contracting (15 years or so).

Given that it can take longer to transfer than a fresh application the client will always have to wait unless your SC is already with that client.

I've had SC twice and both times the client waited whilst I got it. I just didn't have admin access to any systems till it did arrive, but as I was designing and documenting initially it was fine.

[MrMarkyMark]

Given that it can take longer to transfer than a fresh application the client will always have to wait unless your SC is already with that client.

I've had SC twice and both times the client waited whilst I got it. I just didn't have admin access to any systems till it did arrive, but as I was designing and documenting initially it was fine.

The transfer method gives them the confidence you will get it, eventually, though.

Point being if you are to apply for a role without it, I'm sure they would be more likely to a) choose someone that has had it before. b) choose someone who had it recently (Less than 1 year).

[Lance]

The transfer method gives them the confidence you will get it, eventually, though.

Point being if you are to apply for a role without it, I'm sure they would be more likely to a) choose someone that has had it before. b) choose someone who had it recently (Less than 1 year).

Agreed. Even though mine's run out I point out that I've had it twice with the second time being completed in under 2 weeks.
And mine running out is on the assumption that the client has told anyone I left. So if I went back to the same client and they'd not informed the vetting people then I'd still have it (I reckon anyway).

[MrMarkyMark]

Agreed. Even though mine's run out I point out that I've had it twice with the second time being completed in under 2 weeks.
And mine running out is on the assumption that the client has told anyone I left. So if I went back to the same client and they'd not informed the vetting people then I'd still have it (I reckon anyway).

Was this after the 1 year was up Lance?

I'm only asking because the Mrs had it, but that was over 2 years ago, now.

[Big Blue Plymouth]

Earlier in the year I was working for a large consultancy on an armed forces web portal which required sc clearance.

My sc also wasn't transferred from my previous MOD client. Didn't even do the basic BPSS or whatever.

Makes me wonder if it required sc clearance at all...

[Lance]

Was this after the 1 year was up Lance?

I'm only asking because the Mrs had it, but that was over 2 years ago, now.

A contractor's SC last for just one year after they leave the client. Unless transferred within that year, or if the 5 year duration is reached earlier.
It's different for permies but I can't remember as I've never cared