Business analysts: why are there so many of you?

[Cirrus]

You voted out didn't you?

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This sort of xenophobia is pretty disgusting and should not be allowed on this forum.

It's not xenophobia. It's intolerance of lazy, puerile drivel. These people are supposed to be professionals; supposed to be contractors. They drag us all down by their disrespect for colleagues and clients. If they can't be bothered to put together proper sentences then why should they be trusted to contribute to important corporate initiatives?

By the way - this applies to you as well

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It's not xenophobia. It's intolerance of lazy, puerile drivel. These people are supposed to be professionals; supposed to be contractors. They drag us all down by their disrespect for colleagues and clients. If they can't be bothered to put together proper sentences then why should they be trusted to contribute to important corporate initiatives?

By the way - this applies to you as well

I agree. I'm a foreigner. It's not xenophobia, it is a basic requirement. If you don't care what I think, read what one of the guys a lot of Open Source programmers look up to thinks:

How To Become A Hacker

[Bee]

I agree. I'm a foreigner. It's not xenophobia, it is a basic requirement. If you don't care what I think, read what one of the guys a lot of Open Source programmers look up to thinks:

How To Become A Hacker

But the way he expressed the idea it’s clearly xenophobia for me.

[Bee]

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Requirements documents tend to be complex and they should really read smoothly. It's so irritating reading a paragraph and then going back over it again to guess what the BA might be trying to say.

Yes can be irritating and is more irritating when we read English (from native speakers) and they need to write a testament to say two lines, or from certain parts of UK when they don't use Standard English is even more difficult to read. There are a lot problems in communications skills with native speakers.

Nowadays you work with lots of foreigners but I really don't understand how they steal our plum jobs ('BA' = £500 on average) when they can't even speak the language.

Probably because they have other skills that you don't have.

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It's not xenophobia. It's intolerance of lazy, puerile drivel. These people are supposed to be professionals; supposed to be contractors. They drag us all down by their disrespect for colleagues and clients. If they can't be bothered to put together proper sentences then why should they be trusted to contribute to important corporate initiatives?

By the way - this applies to you as well

This is rude and xenophobic, and it's not according with a contractor's profile that should have a politeness and cooperative professional behavior.

[northernladuk]

Another thread dragged to the dogs by Bee.

[nomadd]

.. contractor's profile that should have a politeness and cooperative professional behaviour.

*cough*

Tea spilt.

[Cirrus]

... it's not according with a contractor's profile that should have a politeness and cooperative professional behavior.

You see, that's not professional English. "A ... profile that should have ...cooperative, professional behaviour." We don't talk like that even though the meaning can be extracted. It is disruptive, like discordant music. It's also incidentally vacuous. You use professional behaviour when you are defining professional behaviour so it's recursive, and co-operative is not really the issue here. And that's all you say. So not only is your expression careless but your thinking is dilatory. That's fine for a waiter but not an IT consultant.

I have worked with tons of foreigners who know about English language style so it's not racist as I said before.

What's your excuse, by the way? I'm never quite sure whether it's poor knowledge of English, laziness, or just modern youth-speak which seems to confuse Kingston upon Thames with Kingston, Jamaica.

[Lance]

Another thread dragged to the dogs by Bee.

For the sake of clarity, and for those who speak English as a second language, the word 'dogs' here is pejorative and nothing to do with the 'dog's b*ll*cks'.

[SueEllen]

For the sake of clarity, and for those who speak English as a second language, the word 'dogs' here is pejorative and nothing to do with the 'dog's b*ll*cks'.

That's unfair those I know who speak English as an additional language don't have a problem understanding colloquialism and slang. Though I suppose it helps if you have actually lived in the UK and enjoyed English comedies...