Security Clearance (SC) - Partner with caution

[northernladuk]

This is a long thread to say, We don't know the specifics so can't say. Fill the form in, be honest, follow the rules and see what happens is the answer.

[malvolio]

Not helpful - I'm clearly not trying to "game" anything. I'm asking for thoughts on the process in my situation and not trying to fake it, and making sure what they consider a spouse v partner etc.

The process is "fill in the form honestly". Let them worry about where it takes them. You can't change the outcome anyway.

[LoopieLou]

Hi all,

So my permie job took me on for a short contract when I handed in my notice, so I stayed there for a bit but I'm now back looking at consulting and need the SC. Our living situation hasn't changed, but as before we're thinking of moving in together.

I've done a load of research and the department i'd be contracting for has an FAQ which states that 1) partners are only those considered as living with you, and 2) it actually states that I don't need to supply any criminal record info for the partner.

The reality is we're going to move in together, so that's option 1 ticker. And as I said the FAQ states I only need to supply my partners info, and specifically states I don't need to state whether they have a record, so that's point 2.

Gut feel here ladies and gents - will my SC be refused? Please try and avoid the "you'll just have to try and see" responses - I'm after thoughts beforehand.

[malvolio]

Hi all,

So my permie job took me on for a short contract when I handed in my notice, so I stayed there for a bit but I'm now back looking at consulting and need the SC. Our living situation hasn't changed, but as before we're thinking of moving in together.

I've done a load of research and the department i'd be contracting for has an FAQ which states that 1) partners are only those considered as living with you, and 2) it actually states that I don't need to supply any criminal record info for the partner.

The reality is we're going to move in together, so that's option 1 ticker. And as I said the FAQ states I only need to supply my partners info, and specifically states I don't need to state whether they have a record, so that's point 2.

Gut feel here ladies and gents - will my SC be refused? Please try and avoid the "you'll just have to try and see" responses - I'm after thoughts beforehand.

Hmmm...

We don't know the client department, we don't know the vetting agency, we don't know the criteria they will apply for their risk assessment, we don't know the role. On that basis, "apply and see what happens" is the only valid answer. Sorry, but as I keep saying there are no hard and fast rules so you cannot give any kind of definitive answer.

But if you want a genuine constructive thought - don't worry too much: for a clearance required role and an uncleared candidate, 99% of agencies won't put you forward anyway.

[northernladuk]

Hi all,
Gut feel here ladies and gents - will my SC be refused? Please try and avoid the "you'll just have to try and see" responses - I'm after thoughts beforehand.

You can't demand an answer from people who don't have all the details or any clue about the background process. The only thing we can say is try and see. Nothing else is anything but guesswork.

I am confused about your situation though. Are you applying for a or have been offered one? If you are how are you going to move your partner in on time. If you do want a total guess then it's going to look complicated so the vetting company will ever on the side of caution and say no. I'd say HTH but it doesn't.

I can tell you you were inside IR35 for that last gig though. HTH.

[LoopieLou]

Perhaps I was t clear in the first postings while ago, so apologies.

I'm currently SC'd - my permie job did this for me and then transferred it when I contracted with them. I'm not living with my partner now so haven't had to notify the relationship. I've been offered the new job on the basis that I've been SC'd before.

The new job also requires SC but, as I worked abroad with my old job whilst SC'd for over 2 years, the new department (as in government department) have said they can't transfer the SC and I'll have to re-apply. So, the new SC application will have both our details on as he'all have moved in by then, hence the question marks.

My main concern is potential fallout - I'll be working with good friends in the new department, and I'm petrified that I'll be frog marched out a few weeks in if the SC fails.

[SueEllen]

The thing is as everyone has stated before no one on here can tell you.

The only people who maybe able to give you a clue are the organisation you are doing the work for. They would know what things that would prevent you being cleared.

[northernladuk]

They would know what things that would prevent you being cleared.

I am not so sure they will.

[LoopieLou]

I am not so sure they will.

That was my thought, Northern. There is a number / email address to contact the vetting officers on with any queries about the application, but of course they won't be able to give any specific thoughts until they have the application in complete to make a full decision.

Very frustrating - it now turns out that the contract is probably with the MoJ but via the FCO...

[SueEllen]

I am not so sure they will.

They do know the generic things e.g. nationality, if you have been convicted of a crime in a specific category. No one but the vetting officers know the specific details.