I thought Scala, DevOps/SRE and being SC cleared would make some one 'most wanted' in the industry. But Alas,
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Originally posted by BigDataPro View PostI thought Scala, DevOps/SRE and being SC cleared would make some one 'most wanted' in the industry. But Alas,
- DevOps has only existed since 2010/2011, The Phoenix Book, Gene Kim et al.
- Scala is one those skills that I replied back to [ToDude?] about in another CUK thread, can't remember which one though. The fractious in-fighting inside Scala eco-system has led to its demise and reputation within the global developer community as well as new competition from Kotlin and a resurgent Java.
- SRE (site reliability engineer) is still a very much needed skill: monitoring cloud, systems, website and also security platform-ops are still required.
I also think that a lot of people lie about their skill set; they increase the number of years of knowing C++, SCRUM or Kotlin ("I had 15 years of Kotlin"). Go figure.
Thanks BigDataPro for your evidence of a Begging Post. I went looking for examples in my feed and my connection and I couldn't find one. Maybe I killed enough LinkedIn notifications so it is a flat pulse. Yes. The State of the Market is utter tulip (contract or FTC or perm). Shambolic. It is quite literally stunning.Last edited by rocktronAMP; 6 December 2023, 16:53.Comment
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Originally posted by BigDataPro View PostI thought Scala, DevOps/SRE and being SC cleared would make some one 'most wanted' in the industry. But Alas,
On the other hand, half or more of his post might simply be a lie, I mean there's some proper mental people in tech, so don't believe everything you see...Comment
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Originally posted by dsc View Post
Seen this today, even without Scala, devops + SC should be enough to land something. Strange, but you have no idea how he comes through in interviews, also it seems the market is dead for devops now, so the SC probably doesn't make much of a difference.
On the other hand, half or more of his post might simply be a lie, I mean there's some proper mental people in tech, so don't believe everything you see...
Waiting 3 weeks on outcome from an interview for a role I really want, perfect step in a new career trajectory. HR is adamant it's just HM dragging their feet and no decision has been made.Comment
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Originally posted by dsc View Post
Seen this today, even without Scala, devops + SC should be enough to land something. Strange, but you have no idea how he comes through in interviews, also it seems the market is dead for devops now, so the SC probably doesn't make much of a difference.
On the other hand, half or more of his post might simply be a lie, I mean there's some proper mental people in tech, so don't believe everything you see...Comment
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Call me a miserable cynic but, begging aside, wouldn't you want to show some basic attention to detail in a begging post, avoiding typos etc., as well as keeping it somewhat professional (no matter how desperate)?Comment
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Originally posted by dx4100 View Post
What I don't understand is how this person hasn't picked up some temp work at Royal Mail, some shifts a Asda or started doing some UberEats delivering. Something to get the money in. Maybe they have but sometimes you can become a bit blinkered on what you need to be doing to survive. If things are really this bad you need to be doing a bit more surely than just hoping on landing another golden nugget.Comment
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Originally posted by eek View PostIn other news - someone who knows the recruitment market is saying that Contract work is doing way better than permanent recruitmentOriginally posted by JustKeepSwimming View Post
I think it doesn't occur to many people. I've seen it before where someone has done X for many years and it just doesn't occur to them to adapt and try something different. You get a lot of 'Why bother, they will just dismiss me because i'm overqualified'. Ironically, I think pride plays a role too.
equally £300 may pay for food but it probably doesn’t solve other debts continuing to build upmerely at clientco for the entertainmentComment
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Not one call this week from any agency or recuriter. Time to relax and not stress too much, TBF it's about the only thing we can all do.
Market is tulip
Economy is tulip
Weather is also tulipComment
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Originally posted by eek View Post
There is also a certain amount of I need £x000 a week to live on, it takes a long time to accept that £300 is better than nothing.
equally £300 may pay for food but it probably doesn’t solve other debts continuing to build up
Hopefully any contractor out of work is starting from the healthy position of having 6 months warchest built up (hopefully better). Soon as you are out of contract you cut right back and turn that 6 months into 12 months. Then after a month of being out of contract you start picking up whatever work you can to extend that warchest further.
I think in reality some people don't cut back until its too late and probably didn't have that 6 month warchest they should have had. So I guess the idea of swallowing your pride, stop being a snob and picking up some NMW work is probably too far fetched.
I want to be sympathetic but it should take a lot more the six months out of work to floor you to the point where you are posting these begging posts on Linkedin.
I do find it some what offensive that someone thinks they should get selected for a contract over the next guy because they probably didn't do any of the above. Its business, leave the sob stories for x factor contestants.Last edited by dx4100; 6 December 2023, 17:31.Comment
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