Just thinking about the post above suggesting a poll to gauge how many people are inside/outside IR35, has anyone seen any national data on this from HMRC or any other body?
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Originally posted by edison View PostJust thinking about the post above suggesting a poll to gauge how many people are inside/outside IR35, has anyone seen any national data on this from HMRC or any other body?
Perhaps Inside IR35 people also look, data-wise, exactly the same as ordinary employees.
The self-selecting surveys from IPSE, QDOS and co won't help, almost no one I work with has heard of them.⭐️ Gold Star ContractorComment
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Originally posted by edison View PostJust thinking about the post above suggesting a poll to gauge how many people are inside/outside IR35, has anyone seen any national data on this from HMRC or any other body?
But it is not say 3:1 one way or the other, it seems much closer matched at the moment.Last edited by Fraidycat; 27 April 2023, 16:44.Comment
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Originally posted by Fraidycat View Post
Rough estimate from the job boards, there are 3 outside contracts for every 2 inside ones. That is based on the what the adverts says. But given that many Inside roles hide the fact in the advert, while Outside roles promote it, i would say the reality is probably closer to 1:1 at the moment, maybe even 2:3 the other way.
But it is not say 3:1 one way or the other, it seems much closer matched at the moment.Comment
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Purely based on ads I have seen in Jobserve it is about 50-50. It quite possibly varies from sector to sector though, for example banking seems to be risk adverse.
I have yet to have an Inside contract, although that is mainly luck of the draw aided by not working in finance and having gone through the same couple of boutique agents for a few years.Comment
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Originally posted by SussexSeagull View PostPurely based on ads I have seen in Jobserve it is about 50-50. It quite possibly varies from sector to sector though, for example banking seems to be risk adverse.
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Originally posted by TheDude View Post
Presumably because they engage thousands of contractors.Comment
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Originally posted by PerfectStorm View Post
Not sure a complete dataset could exist could it? There's nothing in the data that easily separates outside contractors from people who happen to get rather large share dividends every so often.
Perhaps Inside IR35 people also look, data-wise, exactly the same as ordinary employees.
The self-selecting surveys from IPSE, QDOS and co won't help, almost no one I work with has heard of them.Comment
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Originally posted by SussexSeagull View Post
Yes, although they tend to be large companies. A smaller outfit having fewer contractors might have the same relative risk.Comment
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Originally posted by RobScott View Post
Outside is better. the risk is on the client and they are responsible and pay NIComment
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