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Originally posted by Antman View PostWhen you get multiple interviews, it says a lot about the client and the type of working environment.
Not quite related but what's starting to trigger me at the moment is the number of linked in posts complaining about the market and agencts on linkedin at the moment. It's almost a daily occurance to see a long thread complaining about one of two things. Firstly that someone has sent of 100 (or some other ridiculous number) applications in the last two weeks and hasn't found anything. Maybe it's only us contractors that know this but no way are there 100+ roles out there for any generic business area let alone one that specifically meets the skills of the applicant. The other is that agents don't feed back because 'it's professional and polite to do so'.
I very rarely comment on linkedin for obvious reasons but I'm finding it harder and harder to not reply to people posting this kind of rubbish on there at the moment.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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In terms of contracting it is definitely the slowest I have ever known it and I have been doing this 20 years now
Normally 100ish contract roles a day posted on jobserve nationwide for my skillset, I checked before and there had been 10 today
I picked something up a few days ago but I have never seen the IT contract market like this, been similar since April as well to be honest. Would hate to be new to contracting with only 2 or 3 years experience in the current climate or have a niche skillsetComment
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Originally posted by perplexed View PostThe flip side is that accepting large drops in rate resets the market rate. When covid clears, clients aren't then going to then turn round and say "sorry the rate was lower, going forward we'll whack it back up". The view will be "well, you were happy to work at that rate then...".
Consultancies especially are more concerned about driving their own profits.
This is unprecedented, 4 months now of the entire economy almost grinding to a halt. Remote working is bringing rates down to which for contractors like me who travel is fair enough, as there are no hotels etc to pay
As long as we don't have another national lockdown things will get better and better now going forward hopefullyComment
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Originally posted by JohnM View PostIn terms of contracting it is definitely the slowest I have ever known it and I have been doing this 20 years now
Normally 100ish contract roles a day posted on jobserve nationwide for my skillset, I checked before and there had been 10 today
I picked something up a few days ago but I have never seen the IT contract market like this, been similar since April as well to be honest. Would hate to be new to contracting with only 2 or 3 years experience in the current climate or have a niche skillset'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostI'm still surprised at 10. When I was off for 5 months end of the last year there it was single number per week. I was looking at just Service Transition though so pretty specific.
Its around 20-25 now but there are some days like today where its 10Comment
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Originally posted by JohnM View PostIn terms of contracting it is definitely the slowest I have ever known it and I have been doing this 20 years now
Normally 100ish contract roles a day posted on jobserve nationwide for my skillset, I checked before and there had been 10 today
I picked something up a few days ago but I have never seen the IT contract market like this, been similar since April as well to be honest. Would hate to be new to contracting with only 2 or 3 years experience in the current climate or have a niche skillset
That said, I would submit it is less 10 'roles', and more 10 'adverts' for three roles.
Right now, Cloud Azure is all the rage with a few roles being picked over by a veritable volume of vultures.Comment
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostYou'd think so wouldn't you.
Not quite related but what's starting to trigger me at the moment is the number of linked in posts complaining about the market and agencts on linkedin at the moment. It's almost a daily occurance to see a long thread complaining about one of two things. Firstly that someone has sent of 100 (or some other ridiculous number) applications in the last two weeks and hasn't found anything. Maybe it's only us contractors that know this but no way are there 100+ roles out there for any generic business area let alone one that specifically meets the skills of the applicant. The other is that agents don't feed back because 'it's professional and polite to do so'.
I very rarely comment on linkedin for obvious reasons but I'm finding it harder and harder to not reply to people posting this kind of rubbish on there at the moment.
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Originally posted by eek View PostReally can't see any problem with that - if an agency is charging me 20% of the annual salary to recruit someone the very least I would expect for the £xxxk I'm paying is ensuring I don't waste my time interviewing people who are only paper qualified.Comment
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Originally posted by dsc View PostFair enough and that was my thinking, but if the technical test is taking care of the technical side of things, what the hell can the pimp ask me which is relevant? He already knows I'm freelance now and would prefer freelance roles and only really going for this one as it has a few areas which I've not done much work in before. I'm expecting the usual question "so what if a good contract shows up in 2 months time and you are doing this perm job?", but apart from this not sure it makes much sense.
The approach then is always think of it as a parlour game with children.Comment
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