Originally posted by hairymouse
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I saw one like this recently for about an extra £50. They also wanted you to be the project manager and to 'line manage' permy staff too! -
Have spoken directly with some organizations and had to revise my rate expectation downwards 20%+ (large corps). Seeing ads via agencies for various roles at various organizations I know have been filled. Called some to check on the status. No answer or return of message.Comment
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I think I saw that, they wanted you to be the project manager because "deadlines are tight". Secret code for "We want you to be responsibility for our ridiculous deadline. Your project manager responsibilities will consist solely of being blamed for the inevitable missed deadline"Originally posted by CheeseSlice View PostComment
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Hi folks, I'm a noob here, I finished my last gig in March this year... a month early as my client binned me off, through the agency, by voicemail, nothing like the personal touch! As the project I had been working on was cancelled.
I'm an MS Access VBA Developer, that's what I specialise in but also work with MSSQL, PostgreSQL, Sharepoint and anything else really on a needs must basis to get the job done. Being and Access Developer is pretty niche these days and becoming niche(r) as generally a lot of contracts are for migration away from MS Access to more enterprise level systems. It's what I do though, so since finishing my last contract I took a few months out and started looking for my next contract at the beginning of July.
Initially in July, August & September there was absolutely nothing to even apply for, maybe that was summer holiday related, it started to pick up a bit in October but Wow!!! the market seems to be all over the place with FTC's, Inside and Outside IR35, low low low rates (£100 - £200), ridiculously high rates (£700-£900), not just for MS Access jobs but a lot of stuff that turns up in my search criteria and pretty much nothing extending beyond March 2020. That's when I thought I'd head over to this forum to see if others were experiencing the same as me and I spent a very entertaining afternoon yesterday, reading the last few months posts and nodding in agreement at everything everybody was saying.
It seems a lot of companies have taken the implementation of the new IR35 legislation as a green light to slash contractor rates to bring them in line with permies. I really can't see who is going to go for those "contracts" though, all the costs and risks of being a contractor still apply but now the rewards just aren't there. A lot of contractors I've worked with in the past relocate for the duration of a contract, I myself have spent years away from home, going where the work is and absorbed the costs of doing so. There's a job on the boards at the moment based down Bristol way, I interviewed (unsuccessfully) for that in Summer 2018 at £350 per day, it looks like they're looking for somebody new in the role but now inside IR35 at around £200 a day max. Unless you're local £200 a day is not viable and consequently it's been on the jobs boards for weeks. It seems a bit 50/50 at them moment the split between FTC and "usual" market day rates. I had a pimp ring me up the other day offering me £150 a day FTC to work for a large (Spanish) bank, after tax reduce that to £100... I told them where to go!
I'm very fortunate as I made enough out of my last contract to enable me to pay my mortgage off and that takes away any immediacy for me to work so I can plod along doing bits and bobs here and there and stay pretty much semi-retired until the right thing comes along, no matter how long it takes. So until then I shall continue to search for the right gig, continue to be ghosted by the pimps and continue to wade through all the BS and fictional jobs the pimps post on the jobs boardsComment
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Hopefully the karma police will catch up with them eventually. Pimp ghosting is far too common place, maybe there should be an anonymous website just to post the name / agency, and then have a CUK award for it every year.Originally posted by iainb View PostComment
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I'm local and I generally aim for 380-400, the only way I would go to 350 is if it was a dream job, something easy, lots of remote/ultra flexible time, and I was a bit desperate.Originally posted by iainb View Post
I can't imagine going for £200 lolComment
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Unfortunately it seems to be the norm these days... they could turn up for their award... to an empty room, karma!Originally posted by krytonsheep View Post
If there was a contract on my doorstep, I'd do £200 a day, better than £0 a day. I suppose we all have our own limits and a lot depends on supply and demand... but, in the short term at least the market may have just changed. I generally work for £350 a day min but I aim to clear at least £200 a day profitOriginally posted by FIERCE TANK BATTLE View PostComment
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Inside IR35 roles will see £200 day roles get you around £15 an hour netOriginally posted by iainb View Post
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I know... that's my point, that's why I say I need to clear £200 a day after deductions and costs or I may as well go perm with all of the comfort and safety that brings.Originally posted by GhostofTarbera View PostComment
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Where are all these perm jobs that people will just walk into??
there're a lot of blithe 'i'll just go perm' statements on here, is it That easy?Comment
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