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Originally posted by Paralytic View PostBased on other posts, this. Might be a chapette though.Comment
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Originally posted by PCTNN View PostWould you rather go permie or take a contract inside ir35?Comment
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'go permie' seems to be some kind of mantra here.
where are all these permie jobs you can just walk into at will?
and a £120k/pa contract under a brolly gives you <>£75k clear, where a permie equivalent gives £75k gross.
ok, with some perks, but also with all the HR bollocks and the office politics.
maybe i'm missing something?Comment
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Originally posted by Peoplesoft bloke View PostPermie. No point in contracting inside IR35 - worst of all worlds - especially as rates aren't improving and despite rumours I see no premium being offered for inside.
Might all turn out to be rumours, but interesting nonetheless. There's been no formal notification on when any comms will take place.Last edited by Paralytic; 27 September 2019, 16:08.Comment
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Last clientco had me sitting near a person who appeared to be doing all the planning for the new rules.
Had to really bite my lip with all the nonesense they wer coming out with but basically the short version was that they think they have a lot of permatractors and they are terminating them all.
Almost no-one is getting an inside IR35 offer and almost no-one will be offered an outside IR35 gig. Despite all the available data about how to make proper determinations etc, they are just making a blanket decision. They are mostly offering permie roles (and at pretty average salaries too).
I don't imagine it's that rare for large organisations to have a loud-mouthed ignoramus (as this person is) running their IR35 project so I am seriously considering a spell of permidom.Comment
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Originally posted by Peoplesoft bloke View PostI don't imagine it's that rare for large organisations to have a loud-mouthed ignoramus (as this person is) running their IR35 project so I am seriously considering a spell of permidom.
Others will do blanket inside determinations (but obviously not admit to it) or (more likely IMO) blanket "no more contractors" enforcement with contractors asked to moved to Umbrellas or some offered perm roles (with the exact decision delegated to middle-management cost-centre owners).
A few business critical people (not roles) might be identified and exceptions made.
The market will determine where rates end up. I don't expect any increase initially, until things settle down.
I'll post lottery numbers tomorrow.Last edited by Paralytic; 27 September 2019, 16:55.Comment
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Originally posted by GhostofTarbera View PostWhat market are you in ?Comment
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Originally posted by simes View PostMedia and Telco, largely.
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Originally posted by BR14 View Post'go permie' seems to be some kind of mantra here.
where are all these permie jobs you can just walk into at will?
and a £120k/pa contract under a brolly gives you <>£75k clear, where a permie equivalent gives £75k gross.
ok, with some perks, but also with all the HR bollocks and the office politics.
maybe i'm missing something?If you don't have anything nice to say, say it sarcasticallyComment
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