Question for QDOS re: IR35 contracts

[ShandyDrinker]

Pass rates:

October 15: 43.10%
November 15: 42.16%
December 15: 49.04%
January 16: 46.60%
February: 52.12%
March: 57.21%
April: 53.87%

Very scary stats. Sounds like many people are willing to take a risk... and that's those that give enough of a stuff about IR35 to get their contract reviewed in the first place!

[northernladuk]

HMRC reading this thread be like...



Two years later and one partial victory they be like...

[FiveTimes]

Good for you. I hope you managed to get something else and you didn't lose out. They aren't going to start taking it seriously until this happens more. Sadly I think we know what will have happened next in this case.

I lost out on the gig. But I would have taken it as it would mean home every night. However agency wouldn't budge.

A new agent has come back to me for the same gig and increased the rate. But I still have my doubts.

At the start of a gig you want that piece of paper saying PASS so you can start on a solidish footing

[Criticular]

Working practices & uncooperative client-what else could be done to be safe frm IR35?

Asked the client, a larger commercial but bureaucratic company, to fill and sign working practices form before I start and they said they have a policy not to sign anything related to IR35. Is there anything else (apart from contract review) I can do to make sure I am safe from IR35? I saw some threads on this forum with some contractors sending letters saying "hey client, I am outside IR35" but how efficient are they?

[Einstein Jnr]

I just got my contract reviewed and failed by qdos. I have asked the agency to revise but they seem to be dragging their heels. Contract is due to start Monday. Don't want to sign the failed one as I am listed as being party to the agreement as opposed to my co and agent/client. I also don't want to miss out on the gig - have been looking for a while and market is pretty dry.

[northernladuk]

I just got my contract reviewed and failed by qdos. I have asked the agency to revise but they seem to be dragging their heels. Contract is due to start Monday. Don't want to sign the failed one as I am listed as being party to the agreement as opposed to my co and agent/client. I also don't want to miss out on the gig - have been looking for a while and market is pretty dry.

They are playing you because they know you will probably sign so need to take it to them. Tell them in no uncertain terms you'll not be attending site until the right contract turns up. If you can make them even think you might not turn up they will pull their finger out. They will be losing commission every day you are not on site so there is something in it to make them take notice.

[MrMarkyMark]

I'd say that too. If client is renewing you, then client has work for you and likes you.

Its possible client don't even know about this slight hitch, agency can't be bothered, and as NLUK is saying, just think you'll sign it.

Depends on how well you get on with the client, but it MAY be worth mentioning to them that yes, you'd love to extend, but the agency are being a bit awkward with contractual issues.

It's a brand new contract, you plum

[psychocandy]

It's a brand new contract, you plum

oh yeh. "reviewed" "renewed"

[LondonManc]

They are playing you because they know you will probably sign so need to take it to them. Tell them in no uncertain terms you'll not be attending site until the right contract turns up. If you can make them even think you might not turn up they will pull their finger out. They will be losing commission every day you are not on site so there is something in it to make them take notice.

Spot on. The market's as dry for agents as it is for contractors so they'll need your 'arris in a seat asap.

[Einstein Jnr]

So I reminded them about not starting till contract is in place - I just received the revised contract with all the QDOS recommended changes. Looks good but running it past QDOS one more time. It's been a couple of months so looking forward to being back on a project.