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    #21
    FTFY
    Originally posted by VillageContractor View Post
    Sounds like a great opportunity and Google is your friend
    The Chunt of Chunts.

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      #22
      Google is part of the course...
      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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        #23
        Originally posted by Neil2332 View Post
        contractors advice please, where do I stand, ive moved away on a one years contract to migrate desktops and pc's from one image to another after a company take over.

        I got here and found I'm here on my own and the job description is so much different to what was originally advertised , im being asked to mount servers into racks , patch and configure ports ( I have never done either of these, well a bit of patching but not configuration )

        It seems I have brought out here to do the work of a team by myself I'm am an experienced 1st / 2dn line engineer but this stuff is pretty much network engineer / 3rd line.

        If the job is not in the description am I able to walk away from the contract and what are my rights ? I've spent grands on a relocation over here, I take it that money is just gone now ?

        examples of not within the remit

        - To assist with vendor with setup and configuration of switches, routers, servers if needed.
        - Assist in Contact center roll out. Working with Local telephony Vendor and Server team for the configuration.
        - Network cable Patching to servers etc..

        Working out of office hours has also been asked of me which was never discussed

        It seems I have been brought out to do the job of a team as a person of one, with no assistance apart from being contacted occasionally
        Its my first contract and before I throw my toys out of the pram I could do with some advice.

        Thanks in advance
        sticking servers into racks and patching cat5 is not 3rd line

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          #24
          Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
          If you are new you need to think about Joining IPSE+ The link is my signature. Once you've done this you can try as TF suggests.
          OP is unlikely to be able to claim if the problem existed before joining.

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            #25
            Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
            OP is unlikely to be able to claim if the problem existed before joining.
            Don't let legalities scupper nluk's chance of a £10 amazon voucher

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              #26
              FTFY
              Originally posted by pr1 View Post
              Don't let legalities scupper nluk's chance of a £20 amazon voucher
              The Chunt of Chunts.

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                #27
                Originally posted by pr1 View Post
                Don't let legalities scupper nluk's chance of a £10 amazon voucher
                Plenty more benefits to joining anyway so still worthwhile.
                'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Neil2332 View Post
                  contractors advice please, where do I stand, ive moved away on a one years contract to migrate desktops and pc's from one image to another after a company take over.

                  I got here and found I'm here on my own and the job description is so much different to what was originally advertised , im being asked to mount servers into racks , patch and configure ports ( I have never done either of these, well a bit of patching but not configuration )

                  It seems I have brought out here to do the work of a team by myself I'm am an experienced 1st / 2dn line engineer but this stuff is pretty much network engineer / 3rd line.

                  If the job is not in the description am I able to walk away from the contract and what are my rights ? I've spent grands on a relocation over here, I take it that money is just gone now ?

                  examples of not within the remit

                  - To assist with vendor with setup and configuration of switches, routers, servers if needed.
                  - Assist in Contact center roll out. Working with Local telephony Vendor and Server team for the configuration.
                  - Network cable Patching to servers etc..

                  Working out of office hours has also been asked of me which was never discussed

                  It seems I have been brought out to do the job of a team as a person of one, with no assistance apart from being contacted occasionally
                  Its my first contract and before I throw my toys out of the pram I could do with some advice.

                  Thanks in advance
                  Originally posted by Neil2332 View Post
                  im working through an umbrella so im paying all my PAYE

                  I've also relocated to the Isle of Man for this contract
                  Yes, it's not as you expected and depending on the contract you could argue the toss with the client/agency and renegotiate. For me the out of hours would be a big no-no unless they're prepared to pay for it... you're not a permie. As others have said you really do need to consider IR35.

                  Although hindsight and knowledge are a wonderful thing it may have been more cost effective to set up a Manx Ltd company for the year and work through that. Working through an umbrella on the IOM probably gives you the worst of all worlds.

                  On the island the tendency is to pay North-West contract rates (or permie salaries unless working for online gaming companies such as Pokerstars) on the basis that the tax rates are sooooo much lower than the UK even though the cost of everything else is that bit more.
                  Last edited by ShandyDrinker; 7 April 2016, 09:02.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by ShandyDrinker View Post
                    Yes, it's not as you expected and depending on the contract you could argue the toss with the client/agency and renegotiate. For me the out of hours would be a big no-no unless they're prepared to pay for it... you're not a permie. As others have said you really do need to consider IR35.

                    Although hindsight and knowledge are a wonderful thing it may have been more cost effective to set up a Manx Ltd company for the year and work through that. Working through an umbrella on the IOM probably gives you the worst of all worlds.

                    On the island the tendency is to pay North-West contract rates (or permie salaries unless working for online gaming companies such as Pokerstars) on the basis that the tax rates are sooooo much lower than the UK even though the cost of everything else is that bit more.
                    Why does he need to the do the bold? You quoted the post that he clarified he was working through a brollie so it's not an issue anymore.
                    'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                      Why does he need to the do the bold? You quoted the post that he clarified he was working through a brollie so it's not an issue anymore.
                      Yep, good point. I meant more in the context of if he considered other options such as limited but should have clarified. As he's already in contract changing would be hard.

                      Brollie or otherwise... the OP should consider tax residency status being in the Isle of Man for a year.

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